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Is there any advantage gained in updating the kernel from 3.13 to 4.4 in LL2.8?
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I don't know very much about kernels so would appreciate some advice.  I have LL2.8 and it has the kernel version 3.13.0-92-generic installed. Is there any advantage to be gained in upgrading it to the 4.4 kernel series?

Thanks for any feedback.

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Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ [email protected] - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ [email protected] - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom [email protected] - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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#2
I noticed something interesting. Did you upgrade LL 2.6 to 2.8 by the built in upgrade? The reason I ask is if you were to do a fresh install of LL 2.8 the kernel would be 3.19.0-33. Linux Lite 2.0 to 2.6 had kernel 3.13.0-24 on a fresh install & version 3.13.0-92 is the last kernel in that series. Earlier this summer I installed LL 2.0 mostly just to enjoy an earlier release for the summer. Love watching those system updates in terminal! (serious) I updated the kernel to LL specific 4.5, which is the highest LL custom kernel you can install in 2.0 to 2.8. I just want to tell you my experience, & that's all it is. I noticed no difference in the computer at all. Jerry has certainly mentioned in the forum that if your computer is working well, don't bother updating the kernel. (If it's a security issue then of course, yes) Which was the reason that an inplace upgrade from 2.6 to 2.8 does not change the kernel. There is still 3 years of support left in the 2.x series. I am sure much more knowledgeable folk will give you a better answer, but for me - I wouldn't bother. Sometimes running newer kernel's on older computers can do strange things.
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(08-18-2016, 06:24 PM)Ottawagrant link Wrote: I noticed something interesting. Did you upgrade LL 2.6 to 2.8 by the built in upgrade? The reason I ask is if you were to do a fresh install of LL 2.8 the kernel would be 3.19.0-33. Linux Lite 2.0 to 2.6 had kernel 3.13.0-24 on a fresh install & version 3.13.0-92 is the last kernel in that series. Earlier this summer I installed LL 2.0 mostly just to enjoy an earlier release for the summer. Love watching those system updates in terminal! (serious) I updated the kernel to LL specific 4.5, which is the highest LL custom kernel you can install in 2.0 to 2.8. I just want to tell you my experience, & that's all it is. I noticed no difference in the computer at all. Jerry has certainly mentioned in the forum that if your computer is working well, don't bother updating the kernel. (If it's a security issue then of course, yes) Which was the reason that an inplace upgrade from 2.6 to 2.8 does not change the kernel. There is still 3 years of support left in the 2.x series. I am sure much more knowledgeable folk will give you a better answer, but for me - I wouldn't bother. Sometimes running newer kernel's on older computers can do strange things.

Many thanks for your reply.  Yes, I did upgrade from LL2.6 to 2.8, which is why I have kernel 3.13 instead of 3.19, based on the observation you made. Also noteworthy that you didn't notice any gain with a series 4 kernel in the LL2 series.  It'll be interesting to hear the experience of other LL users too.

Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ [email protected] - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ [email protected] - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom [email protected] - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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Mike,

If you're on 3.13.. If I recall has longer support than 3.16 or 3.19 I'd have to confirm - I posted the other day... And I believe 4.4 is the next... I think... Wink

I'm not a kernel expert, but my understanding if you're working fine there's no real advantage.. If you're missing something then you may want to try.
On the Kangaroo in my sig the 3.1x series was ok but 4.x was much better.. Now with Mini no difference with 3.1x or 4.4 (if I recall 4.2 it didnt like) but tried 4.6 and had some issues... So depends on hardware...

The following link has info and how to install various kernels https://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/insta...ernel/225/




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