Icons Jump Left.. [99% solved] [Not solved after time, and solved again??]

[gold_finger]

I still don't know how to do anything about the icons moving (which bothers me too), but your other problem sounds like you have a "Saved Session" that gets used on each startup.

Go to Menu -> Settings -> Session and Startup -> Session (tab) -> click "Clear saved sessions". 

[rijnsma]

Thanks gold_finger. Done.
But I remember I have done this some time ago and it continued.
I wait and see what will happen.

For rather long periods it's right now, but then suddenly something
is eminent and it happens again. Panels stay okay (Years ago the same problem
was there with icons in panels; in Gnome was that, and also finished with updates.) 

[rijnsma]

No. Not right. But no emergency.


Very interesting is this one:

When I use Remastersys instead of Clonezilla (which I mostly use) Remastersys
says in its check of the system: "Lightdm not set up properly. You must setup your default
desktop with Lightdm before remastering."

Which is conform: https://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/index...43#msg3043

??

[rijnsma]

.. You must setup your default desktop with Lightdm before remastering."

I can't figure out what this tool means by that??
What 'default' desktop?

Anybody an idea?


(In the meantime I use an older version of Remastersys and that one accepts
the 'unsetting'. Don't know if it writes the system back on HD right, but I'll try
that. I'm very curious what is wrong with Lightdm.. ) 

[rijnsma]

I still don't know how to do anything about the icons moving (which bothers me too), but your other problem sounds like you have a "Saved Session" that gets used on each startup.

Go to Menu -> Settings -> Session and Startup -> Session (tab) -> click "Clear saved sessions".

By the way, tiny remark: in these same settings is the tab 'Advanced' with the option Gnome services and KDE-services. It appears here, that when I switch Gnome services off Chromium asks for the Keyring password, otherwise not. I think it ought to be: it does when Gnome services are on?

[rijnsma]

In the meantime nothing has changed in the jumping around of some icons on
the desk after booting. And error-reporting, which is to a certain extend switchable.
I searched all over the web for a simple solution, but no..

I'm beginning to like Xubuntu 12.04 more and more (joking). I don't know about 14.04.
I use 12.04 again from time to time. It is still on a partition. It never complaints...!  8)

[Scott(0)]

Hi Rijnsma,

I stumbled across this post on xcfe.org. The entire thread is here (https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30881#p30881), this part seems most relevant.



Here is a kludge that I did. You are welcome to it if you want:
I put a desktop icon on my desktop that has a script that will lock/unlock my icons when I
get them where I want. Unlock, then open up all your devices you have, set the icons where you
want, then lock them down. If you want to re-arrange ... unlock them, re-arrange, then lock
them down again. Also, after you set your icons where you want, it is a good idea to make a
back-up of your settings, per whatever
screen resolution you use, in ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/backup
I use icons.screen0-1280x720.rc, therefore I have it backed up in folder
"backup" under ~/.config/desktop

Put this in your Desktop folder:

Code:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Name=IconLockSet
Comment=
Exec=/home/xxx/scripts/iconlockset.sh
Icon=/home/xxx/Linux_stuff/Icons/icon-lock.png
Path=/home/xxx/Desktop
Terminal=true
StartupNotify=false
LockStatus=Locked
GenericName=

In the properties:
It should be named "IconLockSet"  ( no quotes )
command should be: "/home/xxx/scripts/iconlockset.sh"  ( no quotes & your home folder instead of xxx )
check "run in terminal"



Put this script in your scripts folder:
It should be named "IconLockSet.sh"

Code:

#!/bin/bash

if grep -q "LockStatus=Locked" "/home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop"; then
   echo "It is Locked...we will Unlock it"
   sudo chattr -i ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons*
   sed '/Icon=/ c\Icon=\/home\/xxx\/Linux_stuff\/Icons\/icon-unlock.png' < /home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop > /home/xxx/Desktop/tmp.desktop
   rm /home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop
   sed '/LockStatus=/ c\LockStatus=Unlocked' < /home/xxx/Desktop/tmp.desktop > /home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop
   rm /home/xxx/Desktop/tmp.desktop
else
if grep -q "LockStatus=Unlocked" "/home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop"; then
    echo "It is UnLocked...we will Lock it"
    sed '/Icon=/ c\Icon=\/home\/xxx\/Linux_stuff\/Icons\/icon-lock.png' < /home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop > /home/xxx/Desktop/tmp.desktop
    rm /home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop
    sed '/LockStatus=/ c\LockStatus=Locked' < /home/xxx/Desktop/tmp.desktop > /home/xxx/Desktop/IconLockSet.desktop
    rm /home/xxx/Desktop/tmp.desktop
    sudo chattr +i ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons*
fi

fi

exit

Note:
1) change xxx to your home folder name.
2) you will need a folder ~/scripts to put IconLockSet.sh in ( or change the
    code to your folder to suit )
3) you will need a folder ~/Linux_stuff/Icons to put the icons "icon-lock.png"
    and "icon-unlock.png" in ( or change the code to your folder to suit )
4) Go to the icon database and grab a couple of icons you want to use and
    put them in the ~/Linux_stuff/Icons folder ( or whatever folder you use ).
    Rename one "icon-lock.png" and rename the other "icon-unlock.png"
    ( I used the closed lock png for "icon-lock.png", it looks good )

[rijnsma]

Yes, I have searched the web in the weekend and I saw it Scott. Thanks.
I wrote this one:  https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=33880#p33880 below it.

I saw some more ideas, but I insist on a normal desktop with no jumping icons.
A stable desktop (so no jumping icons, no errors at boottime), is an extremely normal thing.
Unstabillity with icons (on desk or on panel) has happened more than once in the past, but
mostly it was okay after some updating like I wrote earlier.

I can live with how I have done it now here (not all icons move) and I'm going to wait for updates (Xfce? Ubuntu? or who or what?). And let's hope it will take not too long. 
Maybe I'll try for fun Xubuntu 14.04 on a partition to see if they have it too.
Mint 17 with MATE and PCLOS-MATE don't have 'jumping icons'.
I have them here: Mint as a installed system [clone(zilla)-like] and PCLOS on a
partition. 

But Linux Lite is too good at points to dump immediately. This is the only
not too big problem.

[rijnsma]

Are the desktop-icons quiet now?
LL2 is a clone here now until it is right. 8)

[JmaCWQ]

Not sure if this will help anyone with this issue but I'll mention it anyway.
I ran updates yesterday for the first time in about 2 weeks (LL2.0), now on every startup 4 of my 25 desktop icons jump to the top left corner.
Before that update it hadn't happened for a couple of months and was seemingly rare and random.
Now it's every startup, and it's the same 4 icons each time, I have 25 in total set across the bottom as close as I can get them to the top of the bottom panel (only use 1 panel) and counting from the left it's always numbers 7, 12, 16 & 24 that get moved.
If there is another icon already in the top left corner position when starting it moves it down to the third place and places 2 of the moved icons above it and 2 below it.
For me anyway it seems something in the update yesterday has triggered it, what that is I have no idea...