Icons Jump Left.. [99% solved] [Not solved after time, and solved again??]

[Valtam]

There are 100's of distros out there and little in the way of uniformity. I would have started this on the XFCE forums, they're the experts on this material. That way when you get a solution that works, you could share it here with everyone

[rijnsma]

The problem is not 'Xfce' although they found a (not always working) patch
which I know for about one year.
See:  https://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/index...12#msg4012
If so I would have had the bug in Mint, in SolydX and Xubuntu for instance. I don't.
I repeat: great distro, but this is annoying.


Btw. it is not impossible I have found what it is, but testing if it is persistent is rather tidy,
so I'll report back. 

[rijnsma]

No, I'm sorry. No persistency...

It was something I experienced in SolydX. Booting stopped because the splash at boot was not compatible with the new kernel. Sombody helped me out ('nosplash' and sudo update-grub) and I thought 'let's experiment with 'nosplash'  at boottime in LL 2.2. But no way. :roll:

Keep searching..

[rijnsma]

I've tried Xubuntu this weekend because of my icon-problem.  ;D 
And it is by the 'shutdown and save your desktop' method able to keep the icons where I want be (as far as I can see for the moment).
I have done a lot of updating, installing and uninstalling software on 14.04 and everything is not moving there.  8)


Edit style; My English is not perfect.

[rijnsma]

And I received this nice reply on the Xfce-forum:


https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36336#p36336 

[Scott(0)]

Hi Rijnsma,
That's good news. I read the news from the link you provided and it looks like the icon moving problem will be fixed for good soon.

[rijnsma]

Yes, I hope so. It's a pity that it took some time...

[rijnsma]

After years of great 'Mate' because of jumping Xfce-icons to everywhere
(I could not simply install the fix Xfce4.12 in for instance Linux Lite) I found a nice solution:


The system as we use it  (like me in Linux Lite or former WattOS like I wrote) needs desperately something like 'lightdm-gtk-greeter'. So a 'greeter' that doesn't force the system off balans at boottime (it appeares).
I installed it simply with Synaptic and ALL my problems with icons in Xfce were gone like snow before the sun.


The system before  was also always very busy when there was no activity. (That was what made me suspicious and I remembered some text which said something about 'greeters' also related to 'systemd'.)

Now my pc is very quiet as it belongs to be. The processor & memory have time left. The software now works like a charm.


Good luck everybody with this longstanding problem, try it yourself, I really hope it works for you too! I know what a drag something like this can be when you like the function 'icons on the desktop' and it is no more there... :wink:




(By the way: searching like hell I liked better as a network manager 'wicd', it gives better control like switching off etc., but sorry, that's off topic. mile: )

[JmaCWQ]

Interesting, thanks for the info Rijnsma.
The gtk-greeter didn't work as a fix for this icon trouble for me though & it broke a couple of things that I immediately noticed.

On a logout/login it worked perfectly, icons stay where they are put.
On a shutdown or restart they did not, majority jumped left again.
It broke the OS's ability to start/restart with an external USB drive powered on, all that would happen is it would go to a black screen with a blinking cursor on the top left, no commands would work, power off the drive & it started ok.

It also broke the mouse themes, the main pointer of the theme I've set only seems to work in the web browser & Thunderbird, looks like everywhere else it's using the default main pointer, however the 'busy' and other pointers from themes seem to go ok no matter where they are.

Having said that though I do like how it uses the current Desktop image when starting up, and being able to type your password to login without having to click anything is also nice.
Never noticed any performance differences though haven't done much with the system yet.
Might have a play with the kde-greeter when I get some more free time.

[rijnsma]

I'm still testing, but all looks in perfect shape here now.
Let us know JmaCWQ.