Possibly confusing wording for new users

[elija]

I have been idly wondering if the menu options Install Additional Software, Remove Additional Software and Install / Remove software (under System) could cause some confusion for new users as it sounds very much like they do the same job? I was thinking that the Install Additional Software and Remove Additional Software could be renamed to "Quickly install popular software"
and "Quickly remove popular software" would make the difference more immediately clear.



One last thought while I am being picky, would it be better for new users to have (a possibly re-branded) Lubuntu software centre replacing the slightly more scary looking Synaptic and giving it a name that suggests the now familiar concept of an app store?

[Valtam]

I have been idly wondering if the menu options Install Additional Software, Remove Additional Software and Install / Remove software (under System) could cause some confusion for new users as it sounds very much like they do the same job? I was thinking that the Install Additional Software and Remove Additional Software could be renamed to "Quickly install popular software"
and "Quickly remove popular software" would make the difference more immediately clear.

The distinction here is the word 'Additional'. Install / Remove software and then Install Additional Software. I would certainly be open to the idea of an alternative name for the existing entries though.

One last thought while I am being picky, would it be better for new users to have (a possibly re-branded) Lubuntu software centre replacing the slightly more scary looking Synaptic and giving it a name that suggests the now familiar concept of an app store?

We simply don't have the manpower at the moment to take on that task. If you know of someone who has the ability and time to do this, please let me know. Cheers

[ohjrson]

I am sort of agreeing with elija But I tend to understand what your saying there Valtam. I too have been confused at times and have even clicked on the wrong one. It is more clear with the look that elija has, there is a distinction of icons that is more readily understood than what is the default.

I will endeavor to try and come up with something unique?

ohjrson

[Scott(0)]

I too have been confused at times and have even clicked on the wrong one.

Until there's more manpower to make a more permanent change how about a temporary solution of renaming the icon with the "main menu" utility?

Menu (aka start buttion) > all > main menu icon
Select system category on the left column
Select "install additional software" in middle column
Click properties button in right column
Launcher properties window opens
The name field can be changed to whatever you like

I realize it's not the same as the original request from Elija but until there's more manpower wouldn't it work as a good temporary solution?

~Scott

[Coastie]

[quote author=elija link=topic=895.msg5180#msg5180 date=1411125298]
One last thought while I am being picky, would it be better for new users to have (a possibly re-branded) Lubuntu software centre replacing the slightly more scary looking Synaptic and giving it a name that suggests the now familiar concept of an app store?

We simply don't have the manpower at the moment to take on that task. If you know of someone who has the ability and time to do this, please let me know. Cheers
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On a previous version of LL, we had a Lite Software Center (re-branded Lubuntu SC). I took Valtam advise and did not install either the Ubuntu or Lubuntu Software Center on this install. I did not either understand or remember why the Lite Software Center no longer exists or what problems using one of the other software centers caused. Don't need them now because I knew what software I wanted with this install and could get easily now with Synaptic.

Can someone explain what happened to the Lite Software Center and what problems using another one causes?

[Alex]

OOps! I did not know that we were not supposed to use the Lubuntu and the Ubuntu software centres - I have both installed now and have used them a number of times...guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens...

As a newbie I was confused at first with the difference between the three install/remove software options - but only once...then the difference is pretty obvious.

BTW is there any way that I can make Kaffeine as the primary choice for playing Videos, it's so much faster and seems to be better than VLC?

Thanks.

[rokytnji]

Never played with it but see/look through Settings>Preferred Applications.

Edit: Just opened it. Never Mind.

[elija]

I am sort of agreeing with elija But I tend to understand what your saying there Valtam. I too have been confused at times and have even clicked on the wrong one. It is more clear with the look that elija has, there is a distinction of icons that is more readily understood than what is the default.

I will endeavor to try and come up with something unique?

ohjrson

The icon set I use is this one from gnome-look.org which I just install into my ~/.icons folder.

As I said, I just idly musing about the potential for confusion. Valtam, I am only a beginner with Python but if you can let know what what would need fixing and / or changing in lubuntu software center to make it workable, I can try and take a look although with my health at the moment I won't make any promises or guarantees.

[Valtam]

Valtam, I am only a beginner with Python but if you can let know what what would need fixing and / or changing in lubuntu software center to make it workable, I can try and take a look although with my health at the moment I won't make any promises or guarantees.

Thank you for offering to help elija. Development requires a commitment to it's users, in this case LL folk. Forking LSC would require an indepth understanding of python code, if you have other python projects that you have either contributed to or developed exclusively I'd certainly be interested in seeing them

[N4RPS]

Hello!

All this never confused me, but if it is confusing people, then perhaps renaming 'Install/Remove Software' to 'Synaptic Package Manager' would help the uninitiated?

As for Kaffeine, doesn't that require installing a bunch of KDE dependencies that wouldn't be used by anything else besides for programs that run under KDE? Wouldn't these KDE dependencies hurt the overall performance of Linux Lite?

73 DE N4RPS
Rob