lighten Lite?

[trinidad]

Could the LL ISO be lightened (speedier installation, smaller footprint) by including optional LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and Gimp, in Lite Software rather than setting them up during installation, or is this a dependency issue for XFCE desktop? Perhaps a Linux "super" Lite version?

TC

[Valtam]

Theoretically yes. I might consider doing this if Ubuntu dropped 32bit support.

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[Coastie]

I would find this helpful too because I have been asked to set up some donated computers for the the library in my congregation's adult lounge. Of course, I will do it using Linux Lite. I don't just want to clone my system because I don't want to include all my passwords, etc. and they won't need as many programs.

This would be the simplest way to do it and avoid having to learn to use a program to get a lightened Linux Lite. If this won't be done soon, suggestions for what program to use for this purpose will be appreciated.

[trinidad]

Coastie:

I may have some suggestions for you by the end of today. I am currently working on a specific project of my own building an Ubu ISO with specialized EFI boot tools, ntfs tools, certain forensic tools, and virtualization tools, that will allow testing and/or installation from stored ISOs, among several other features. Basically a one time install that will facilitate any future modifications to dual boot systems eliminating grub and efi issues once and for all with enough reach using a virtualized Ubu server to handle multiple domains and an HDD installed  footprint of 30g or less. I have had success with these things from full system but customizing and/or building an ISO is time consuming for my hardware and myself. I drank so much coffee the other day, I had to drink a six pack of beer before trying to sleep.

TC

[Valtam]

In the absence of an official release, you guys can always spin up a custom distro under Systemback.

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[newtusmaximus]

FWIW, I have <Ranted> on this approach several times previously.  Believe the move to DVD  "oversized" LL.  Cutting back to a "superlite" approach with basic browser (e.g. Min ? ) and  the ability to cherry pick add-ons readily available through Lite Software would mean CD could possibly be used instead.  Older laptops not having necessarily DVD writer function. ??

BTW has UBUNTU come to a definite decision re life expectancy  32bit versions.?

Just checked LL Database - "
Search found 3745 computer configurations with the keyword/s [32 bit]
Click here to view all 7176 computer configurations uploaded to the hardware database to date."

[bayoubooger]

Coastie:

I may have some suggestions for you by the end of today. I am currently working on a specific project of my own building an Ubu ISO with specialized EFI boot tools, ntfs tools, certain forensic tools, and virtualization tools, that will allow testing and/or installation from stored ISOs, among several other features. Basically a one time install that will facilitate any future modifications to dual boot systems eliminating grub and efi issues once and for all with enough reach using a virtualized Ubu server to handle multiple domains and an HDD installed  footprint of 30g or less. I have had success with these things from full system but customizing and/or building an ISO is time consuming for my hardware and myself. I drank so much coffee the other day, I had to drink a six pack of beer before trying to sleep.

TC

Try Guinness Stout, you only need three...

[trinidad]

32 bit support for Deb Jessie will be around until at least 2020. That's not to say it won't continue well beyond that point. Unfortunately this is not the case for Deb Stretch. For the average user I wouldn't count on 32 bit support beyond five years from now for Deb based DEs of any ilk. This does not mean 32bit will not still be around as there are some specialized necessary uses for only 32 bit. 32 bit machines will still be able to find OSs to run, but Deb security support will formally end for Jessie in 2020. The Ubuntu window is shorter for some older hardware because the LTS is Deb Stretch based.The next stable branch of Deb will probably end 32 bit development and support in Ubuntu completely though a 32 bit spin off may still occur in say for instance Lubuntu though I doubt Xubuntu.

TC

[smhardesty]

I'm hoping what you guys are discussing would be a second, optional type ISO as opposed to making the only available ISO a "Super Lite" version. Since one of Lite's "purposes" is to be an easy to use Linux distribution for Windows users it would seem to me that a stripped down ISO would be a certain turn off to those users. Even users of some other distro might be a bit taken back be the lack of what is normally considered basic, everyday use, packages like Firefox, LibreOffice, etc.

If I misunderstood, just ignore me. I read over the thread a couple times and I just didn't get a real clear idea that this was supposed to be a second, optional ISO.

[Ottawagrant]

I am big, big, big time in favor of this. I would like to see LibreOffice, & CUPS moved to Lite Software. It would be fantastic to have the installation of Linux Lite as JUST the OS, & a web browser. This is not to be critical of Jerry & team in any way, shape, or idea. It's just that there is a very true truth about Linux. It's easier to add something than it is to remove it (because of dependencies). By removing some of the built-in software, features, & their daemons this would help older, slower (or we just plain want it) computers on limited memory & CPU's. LibreOffice is not too hard to remove, but boy! can you brick your computer when it's time to remove CUPS. I think Jerry's suggestion that it be a fork of the regular LL is a great idea. Maybe by "Linux Lite 4.0" we can have "Linux Liter 1.0".