System language/regional settings

[jpmacedosilva]

Good evening,

One small issue that I have when I install Linux Lite, is related to the system language.
During installation I choose the language that I want (portuguese in my case), but after rebooting and in the first login, the system is in english.
I know I can change that in Settings > Regional settings, but the problem is that a big part of the system remains in english, like all folders inside of the home folder, some programs, etc., after I changed the Regional Settings.
This doens't occur in other distributions like Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.

In my opinion, the system should be in the language thar we choosed at the first login,.

Best regatds

[Scott(0)]

Hi Jpmacedosilva,

Have you had a chance to take a look at the language section in the Linux Lite Manual? Here's a link to that section in the online manual (there's also a local copy on your pc).

https://www.freecinema2022.gq/manual/insta...l#language

~Scott

[jpmacedosilva]

Hey there Scott.

Thank you for your response. And yes ... I've read the language section of the LL manual.

I am not an expert on linux - far from it - but I'm pretty comfortable in installing a distribution, and this behavior only happens when I install Linux Lite.

I have already installed Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Mint (Cinnamon, Matte, Xfce), Elementary OS, Manjaro Xfce, and many others during the last years, and in all of them, in the first login, the system is in the language I selected during the installation process ... Except Linux Lite.
In LL, after a clean installation, the system is in English (maybe because it's the default language in the LL Live CD), and only changes to the language I want when I change in the Settings > Language Support.
The problem with this is, that even after you applied a different language, there are some parts of the system (some programs, folders, etc.) that still remain in English (the installation language).
This can be seen - for example - in the image on the Linux Lite manual (the one that shows the menu after the new language has been applied) you can see most of the programs/options in Portuguese and other in English.

Maybe this happens - I'm guessing here - because the language packages are not included in the installation media to save space. But now that the LL 2.2 does not fit into a normal CD, you should include it.

Best regards

[Valtam]

Hi jpmacedosilva,

I'm a little reluctant to include a set of languages on the install media as the end size could give people the impression that we are no longer offering a 'Lite' system. Although the performance would not be foreseeabley impacted, and some of us know that a large media size doesn't necessarily translate to a heavy OS, perception is everything. If you advertise as a light system and you don't produce one, the damage to that OS's image is irreparable. This is why we include an indepth tutorial in the Help Manual. Following the guide step by step will ensure you end up with a system in the language of your choice, excluding some of the Menu names which you can easily change with Menu, Settings, Main Menu

[jpmacedosilva]

Hi Jerry,

I can understand and even accept you want to advertise a lightweight operating system, providing a lightweight installation media also.

But wouldn't it be wiser - and this is just an idea - to provide Linux Lite without Libreoffice (which probably has a lot of weight in the final size of the installation media), and instead offer the language packages?
Given that this is a distribution that proposes to be an excelent alternative to Windows users and to be an entryway to the Linux world, having the entire system including the name of the programs, folders and divices, displayed correctly in their mother language, I consider to be very important.
And if we consider that not all users - who knows how many - do not need an office suite, I think it's more important to have the language packages included, over LibreOffice.

In my opinion Libreoffice should be optional and should be included in the Install Additional Software list. This way the users who needed an office suite would only have to install it through that fantastic tool.

This is just my personal opinion and my way to constructively criticize and contribute.

Keep up the excelent work.

[Valtam]

Thank you for your feedback. I can't ever imagine us dropping the office suite. You certainly don't get a fully functional office suite on Windows, so this is another 'selling point' for us over traditional proprietary operating systems. It boils down to offering an office suite over a set of language packs either of which could be installed with the tools we offer. An OS can provide many things out-of-the-box, but what it cannot be is all things to all people.

[N4RPS]

Hello!

Besides, even with LibreOffice and other 'non-essential' goodies removed, you'd need quite a bit of space indeed to accommodate localization for everyone on the ISO itself. Even Windows uses Windows Update for many of its localizations, and it's ISO is 4 GB + in size.

Many distros have a CD-sized ISO to 'get started', and a larger ISO on DVD(s) that accommodates 'everything' (Debian, as an example). Perhaps THAT would be a possible path to explore...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob

[jpmacedosilva]

Hello N4RPS,

Sorry to disagree with you, but what you say is not entirely true.
Using Xubuntu as an example, the 32-bit version has 899 MB and has a 64-bit 930 MB... And both versions have by default the necessary packages for the entire system to be installed in the language chosen in the installation process (no need to change nothing in the language settings).

I know 899 MB or 930 MB is a little bigger than the 740 MB installation media from Linux Lite, but is worth what you gain.

Best regards