LINUX LITE 7.2 FINAL RELEASED - SEE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS SECTION FOR DETAILS


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Browser choice in Linux Lite 2.2
#31
(11-02-2014, 05:03 AM)Valtam link Wrote: No browser will be available on the live image other than Lite Browser.

At the moment it will be offered after installation.

Would it be possible to include the 3 or 4 major browser choices in the live DVD for testing, then offer choice of one of those to be installed during the installation?  Or is something like that too difficult (or impossible) to do?
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#32
(11-02-2014, 06:24 AM)gold_finger link Wrote: [quote author=Valtam link=topic=1099.msg6663#msg6663 date=1414904588]
No browser will be available on the live image other than Lite Browser.

At the moment it will be offered after installation.

Would it be possible to include the 3 or 4 major browser choices in the live DVD for testing, then offer choice of one of those to be installed during the installation?  Or is something like that too difficult (or impossible) to do?
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Certainly possible but a lot of work, what we seek is a simple solution.
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#33
As long as there is a quick option to install Firefox, Chrome and Chromium (and maybe Opera?) in the initial start up options, it's all good.  I think most would like to just check a box and install their choice of browsers.  If they have to go online to install, it will take away from the simplicity.
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#34
Is it possible a link from the browser choice that opens the "Install Additional Software" or an "Install Your browser" GUI ?

If it is a separate GUI things related to, or reliant upon, specific browsers such as Netflix and plugins could go below each browser on the list. Can horizontal rule/dividers be used in the GUI to separate things this way ?
It would also allow for additional browsers to be added at a future time to the list.

It could free up space on the Install Additional Software List, for other additional software options at a future time. 
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#35
I certainly don't think that restricting size to a CD is important - the smaller systems such as Netbooks don't have optical readers anyway, so USB sticks are necessary for installation.

I agree with others that a fully-featured browser is important during the pre-installation, testing phase which most potential escapees from Windows will want, therefore it must be part of the release.

I use both Firefox and Chromium, and while only one is actually required to allow the potential user to experiment with Linux, since size is not a problem I would suggest both are shipped.

Incidentally, I also agree with an earlier suggestion that if size were a real problem, then an obvious candidate for removing from the release media would be LibreOffice, not a browser!
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#36
So in LL 2.2 there will be first time bootup setup that will allow setup options?
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#37
As a  linux newbie, still acclimatising, might i pitch in.

Assuming that one of the main objectives of LL is  to win over ex XP fraternity who by nature will have older hardware, a  live CD is the most backwardly compatible option.  Not all "old" computers have a USB boot up bios option.

The compatibility issue with their hardware, and peipherals, i.e. setup, is the main hurdle that newbies have to encounter - in a completely strange environment.  Hence the kernel (linux drivers)  is the key, and any other "tricks" that help maintain the OS from becoming bloated during use - i.e cleaner, etc. 

There is a vast amount of older hardware, which would otherwise be scrapped, out there that can be given a second life and perform sufficently well for most "everyday" needs.

2006 - HP DC7700p ultraslim Desktop Intel 6300 cpu  4GB Ram LL3.8 64bit.
2007 - Fujitsu Siemens V3405 Laptop  2 GB Ram LL3.6 32bit. Now 32bit Debian 9 + nonfree.
2006 - Fujitsu Siemens Si1520 Laptop Intel T720 cpu 3GB Ram   LL5.6 64 Bit
2014 - Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook E754 Intel i7 4712MQ 16GB Ram LL6.6
2003 - RETIRED Toshiba Satellite Pro A10 1 GB RAM LL2.8 32bit
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#38
(11-02-2014, 11:24 AM)newtusmaximus link Wrote: Assuming that one of the main objectives of LL is  to win over ex XP Windowsfraternity who by nature will have older hardware, a  live CD is the most backwardly compatible option.  Not all "old" computers have a USB boot up bios option.

Fixed that for ya.  I think it's more ex-Windows users rather than just ex-XP users.  Personally, I haven't used XP since Win7 came out (I skipped Vista).  Linux Lite is also good for those that have tried other Linux distros before but have been unsuccessful due to the complexities of early Linux (more commands/less point-n-shoot GUI).  I tried a few different Linux distros starting a few years ago and never felt comfortable as 1) there were more commands than I could get used to and 2) I'm lazy.

Regarding the USB boot option.  There are more than just a USB install option.  There's also a CD (looking like DVD in 2.2) install option.  If someone has a computer too old to use one of those methods, they should buy some new floppy disks and reinstall Windows 3.1.
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#39
As a new (regular) Linux user since January 2014 coming from Mac OS X and XP, I agree with the other comments that Firefox should be available on the live DVD.* I would want my test drive of any distro to include using Firefox on the internet. A choice of uninstalling or installing browsers could be offered during or after install.


* Still don't get this live CD option. Linux Lite 1.0.6, 1.0.8, and 2.0 never fit on a CD for me. They alway were on DVD's.
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#40
I have no problem graduating up to DVD size. Lite Browser sounds like a good idea to cover the Help Manual.

I personally use Firefox. Having said that I could care less which browser comes with a distro. Easy enough to remove one and install another. There are always at least a couple of apps I either remove or install. It just isn't a big deal. I really like your browser configure app. Looking good so far.  8)
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