09-21-2021, 09:28 AM
I've been using Linux as main Operating System for more than 20 years.
In past years, I gave Gnome, Kde Plasma, Mate a try but in the end I always revert back to Xfce
due to simplicity, stability.
Lately I tried Xubuntu 20.04 but I found it disappointing (bugs, slowness) - if you want to use Kde use either Kde Neon or
Manjaro Kde Plasma- so you get an updated version of Kde. Find below my (raw) feedback. I hope it can be of interest. :003:
Installation of Lite 5.6 went smooth - no issue to report (I created a /home partition before installation)
I missed some applications which were not installed by default. I'm not fond of snap and I tried to add them
through apt & Lite Software (Chromim) but had to add extra PPAs and even AppImage sofware :
- Extra PPA : signal (Messaging) - instructions on https://signal.org/download/linux/
- Exra PPA : virtualbox (so I can get the most recent version) - instructions https://linuxhint.com/install-virtualbox-linux/ as I need a Windows 10 VM from time to time.
- Extra DEB : yacreader (a great comics reader) - https://yacreader.com/downloads
- Extra packages : chromium (always good to have two browsers), audacious (for music), featherpad (to edit text), neofetch, keepassxc, firejail, opensssh-server, dnscrypt, qbittorrent, youtube-dl
I often have to find duplicate files on disks and edit (cut, extract) videos on my system. The best software for these tasks I found are :
Losslesscut (VidCutter stopped working) & czkawka (fslint no longer works/no longer as package). Unfortunately they are not available through deb, PPA but as AppImages.
So I added AppImageLauncher - https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/ and downloaded the AppImages on
https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/releases/ and https://github.com/qarmin/czkawka/releases/
The youtube-dl package is old (on Kubuntu I had a more recent version through snap) - I had to download the most recent binary version on
the official website - in the past there were extra PPAs but it seems there are gone.
Mousepad has no auto-save feature so you can loose files if your system hangs or face a power issue and don't save on frequent basis. I therefore had to install Featherpad
Vlc is installed by default but I prefer audacious to play music- it's lightweight.
I replaced ntp by chrony : ntpd listens on network interfaces (not just loopback), chrony does not and is way more modern.
I unistalled samba (also listening on network interface) - I don't want other systems to use my workstation as a Windows server/storage
For ad-blocking on browsers I use Ublock Origin. DO NOT USE the webext-ublock-origin package, it does not block. Download the version through Mozilla
& Chrome stores.
Tweaks I did :
- I added the Xfce weather applet to the panel
- I found the fonts way too big by default for terminal and Desktop - I have an external screen
- Configure terminal for F12 xfce-terminal drop down - Yakuake like https://averagelinuxuser.com/xfce-drop-down-terminal/
- Speed up / mounting add noatime in /etc/fstab
Bugs I faced :
- Network printer (Brother) configuration failing. I was not able to add my printer (no issue on Manjaro)
Cups errors :
E [20/Sep/2021:18:58:25 +0200] [Client 16] Returning IPP server-error-internal-error for CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer (ipp://localhost/printers/ImprimanteBrother) from localhost.
E [20/Sep/2021:18:58:32 +0200] [CGI] Unable to create PPD file: Could not poll sufficient capability info from the printer (ipp://Brother%20HL-L2350DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/, ipp://BRW4CEBBD48F800.local:631/ipp/print) via IPP!
CLI command :
driverless ipp://Brother%20HL-L2350DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/
ERROR: Unable to create PPD file: Could not poll sufficient capability info from the printer (ipp://Brother%20HL-L2350DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/, ipp://BRW4CEBBD48F800.local:631/ipp/print) via IPP!
This is due to .local (multicast) resolution not working.
Package libnss-mdns was not installed. In addition /etc/nsswitch.conf needed some fixing :
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
instead of
hosts: files dns
- Wrong gif association (Firefox) - should be ImageViewer - blame it on Ubuntu
- A few French translation issues (mousepad, Xfce Menu) - but it's not Lite's fault
- Some Apparmor errors - again Ubuntu's fault :
Apparmor errors : apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/bin/evince-thumbnailer" name="/tmp/tumbler-X70EP90.png"
Need to add to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.evince : owner /tmp/evince-thumbnailer*/{,**} rw,
There are others errors for cups...
In a few words, Lite performs very well. I don't have any major issue. I'm satisfied. i'll keep it . :045: :045: :045:
It's stable :048:. I'm longing for the version based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - but I will wait several months after the release to give it a try and compare it to Linux Voyager - also based on Xubuntu
which is a bit more polished (font size/selection, desktop backgrounds, applications by default) but consumes way more resources.
What's next ?
Adding a more recent libreoffice version (7.2.1) - https://www.libreoffice.org/download/appimage/ for improved Office compatibility
Adding extra software (gthumbs for photos collection sorting, mpd and ymuse - https://github.com/yktoo/ymuse for playing my MP3 collection, qemu to test Linux ISOs : qemu-system-x86_64 -M pc -vga std -enable-kvm -cpu host -m 4096 -hda isofile)
Add a more recent kernel package (5.14 ?) - not sure if I should see some performances improvement and this is really worth the effort
Install Variety to change desktop pictures automatically
Install goodvibes (lightweight internet radio player ) - which also requires gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio so far not needed
In past years, I gave Gnome, Kde Plasma, Mate a try but in the end I always revert back to Xfce
due to simplicity, stability.
Lately I tried Xubuntu 20.04 but I found it disappointing (bugs, slowness) - if you want to use Kde use either Kde Neon or
Manjaro Kde Plasma- so you get an updated version of Kde. Find below my (raw) feedback. I hope it can be of interest. :003:
Installation of Lite 5.6 went smooth - no issue to report (I created a /home partition before installation)
I missed some applications which were not installed by default. I'm not fond of snap and I tried to add them
through apt & Lite Software (Chromim) but had to add extra PPAs and even AppImage sofware :
- Extra PPA : signal (Messaging) - instructions on https://signal.org/download/linux/
- Exra PPA : virtualbox (so I can get the most recent version) - instructions https://linuxhint.com/install-virtualbox-linux/ as I need a Windows 10 VM from time to time.
- Extra DEB : yacreader (a great comics reader) - https://yacreader.com/downloads
- Extra packages : chromium (always good to have two browsers), audacious (for music), featherpad (to edit text), neofetch, keepassxc, firejail, opensssh-server, dnscrypt, qbittorrent, youtube-dl
I often have to find duplicate files on disks and edit (cut, extract) videos on my system. The best software for these tasks I found are :
Losslesscut (VidCutter stopped working) & czkawka (fslint no longer works/no longer as package). Unfortunately they are not available through deb, PPA but as AppImages.
So I added AppImageLauncher - https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/ and downloaded the AppImages on
https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/releases/ and https://github.com/qarmin/czkawka/releases/
The youtube-dl package is old (on Kubuntu I had a more recent version through snap) - I had to download the most recent binary version on
the official website - in the past there were extra PPAs but it seems there are gone.
Mousepad has no auto-save feature so you can loose files if your system hangs or face a power issue and don't save on frequent basis. I therefore had to install Featherpad
Vlc is installed by default but I prefer audacious to play music- it's lightweight.
I replaced ntp by chrony : ntpd listens on network interfaces (not just loopback), chrony does not and is way more modern.
I unistalled samba (also listening on network interface) - I don't want other systems to use my workstation as a Windows server/storage
For ad-blocking on browsers I use Ublock Origin. DO NOT USE the webext-ublock-origin package, it does not block. Download the version through Mozilla
& Chrome stores.
Tweaks I did :
- I added the Xfce weather applet to the panel
- I found the fonts way too big by default for terminal and Desktop - I have an external screen
- Configure terminal for F12 xfce-terminal drop down - Yakuake like https://averagelinuxuser.com/xfce-drop-down-terminal/
- Speed up / mounting add noatime in /etc/fstab
Bugs I faced :
- Network printer (Brother) configuration failing. I was not able to add my printer (no issue on Manjaro)
Cups errors :
E [20/Sep/2021:18:58:25 +0200] [Client 16] Returning IPP server-error-internal-error for CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer (ipp://localhost/printers/ImprimanteBrother) from localhost.
E [20/Sep/2021:18:58:32 +0200] [CGI] Unable to create PPD file: Could not poll sufficient capability info from the printer (ipp://Brother%20HL-L2350DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/, ipp://BRW4CEBBD48F800.local:631/ipp/print) via IPP!
CLI command :
driverless ipp://Brother%20HL-L2350DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/
ERROR: Unable to create PPD file: Could not poll sufficient capability info from the printer (ipp://Brother%20HL-L2350DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/, ipp://BRW4CEBBD48F800.local:631/ipp/print) via IPP!
This is due to .local (multicast) resolution not working.
Package libnss-mdns was not installed. In addition /etc/nsswitch.conf needed some fixing :
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
instead of
hosts: files dns
- Wrong gif association (Firefox) - should be ImageViewer - blame it on Ubuntu
- A few French translation issues (mousepad, Xfce Menu) - but it's not Lite's fault
- Some Apparmor errors - again Ubuntu's fault :
Apparmor errors : apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/bin/evince-thumbnailer" name="/tmp/tumbler-X70EP90.png"
Need to add to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.evince : owner /tmp/evince-thumbnailer*/{,**} rw,
There are others errors for cups...
In a few words, Lite performs very well. I don't have any major issue. I'm satisfied. i'll keep it . :045: :045: :045:
It's stable :048:. I'm longing for the version based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - but I will wait several months after the release to give it a try and compare it to Linux Voyager - also based on Xubuntu
which is a bit more polished (font size/selection, desktop backgrounds, applications by default) but consumes way more resources.
What's next ?
Adding a more recent libreoffice version (7.2.1) - https://www.libreoffice.org/download/appimage/ for improved Office compatibility
Adding extra software (gthumbs for photos collection sorting, mpd and ymuse - https://github.com/yktoo/ymuse for playing my MP3 collection, qemu to test Linux ISOs : qemu-system-x86_64 -M pc -vga std -enable-kvm -cpu host -m 4096 -hda isofile)
Add a more recent kernel package (5.14 ?) - not sure if I should see some performances improvement and this is really worth the effort
Install Variety to change desktop pictures automatically
Install goodvibes (lightweight internet radio player ) - which also requires gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio so far not needed