XFCE vs KDE

[MS]

Right here on this very website, there is an advert for 'Linux Mint', among else, showing up. 'Mint' comes only in three flavours, as for now. Should we take one of the most indie pop distros, that has adverts flying over the web, as a measure of what actually is rad and what a matter of convention? Like, once I asked Jerry to allow choosing a default web browser at the Lite install, assuming that FireFox may not be the choice of everyman already, therefore perhaps even to swap FireFox for something else. Jerry said somewhere that he could not, for the reasons I describe purely as conventional. You see, to take convention for the choice of public, is actually a mistake. But with KDE breakthrough, these may both merge. Maybe even there will emerge one day an ultimate face of a Linux distro, composed only of 'the rightest' things, who knows?

[Valtam]

I want us to shift from our personal experiences to what are the advantages/disadvantages to future users (Windows Mac converts) of a KDE LL. I'd also like to hear if switching to KDE would be a deal breaker for any members. Thank you.

363mb 64 bit KDE...lol..now imagine what that would be in 2022 with all the development they do. Interesting.

[MS]

'KDE LL' sounds good. From what was pointed out, the infrastructure is also a big reason.

I guess as long as other DE exist, there will always be alternative 'go2' distros featuring them.

So until the end of 2021?

[robinc]

One of the important factors with KDE Plasma is how well GTK3 apps integrate - or rather dis-integrate.

Granted there are various utilities that help to improve the experience but it can be a visual bear if you are accustomed to all your apps looking like they come from the same stable.

The rapid pace of KDE development against a - shall we say "slow and steady" - platform like Debian/Ubuntu means that the released version of Plasma can be years ahead of what is available to end users. There are ongoing conflicts with Qt versions clashing with some apps as well.

In fairness I think that you do need to be on a rolling release base like PCLOS in order to get the benefit of the development process which is behind KDE.

[Valtam]

Good point robinc.

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[torreydale]

[member=2]Jerry[/member] ,

It isn't a deal breaker for me.  I trust that whatever release you and other developers put out will continue to stay fast, simple, and free.  The folks I've helped make the transition to Linux Lite wouldn't care much either.

In addition to KDE being bulky in the past, I avoided it because it was "too" feature rich and I didn't know what I was doing going from Arch based to Debian based to Fedora based, etc.  I didn't know how to run updates or install software.  It was a tad overwhelming being so new to Linux at the time, and the distros I tried didn't have documentation as good as Linux Lite.  So I felt lost.  I'm sure whatever help manual is created, coupled with the forum support and testing will make a transition as seamless as any other series change.

[TheDead]

But you can't do that in whisker menu, can you? At least not by default. I'm asking cause now I'm curious, it never ocurred to me to try that.

I second that. When I started ion Linux, the main reason I finally chose XFCE was the Whiskers menu.
Seeing the program descriptions right in the menu trememdously helped the transition...
And no, before anyone replies to this, browsing over each entry to have the pop-up description is not as noob-friendly!

On a side note, for the memory usage, it may be unrelated but could it be that the 64bits version in KDE is just more optimised than XFCE currently?

[Valtam]

The default Menu is growing on me. The more I use and customize it, the easier it appears for me to use.



I'm currently going through and adding all the software that will be default. In some cases, original software like Gimp is held onto, in other cases where appearance and features dominate, new applications replace the old ones. Eg. KSysgurd replaces Htop. Ksysguard is both a system monitor and a process killer/task manager. You can also create and download tabs, pretty awesome.

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