How do I get a usb stick with linuxlite 3.4 to boot up on a windows 10 HP?

[Dana Marsee]

I have just tried to boot from a dvd, same problem.  The bios boot will not recognize my choice of cdrom internal boot or usb boot.  There is a triangle symbol that stays on os boot manager.  I've moved the boot I choose up to the top of the order...but that symbol stays on os boot manager and the system on restart boots to windows.  I miss linux so bad...I really wish I could get this laptop straightened out.  Thanks for any advice.

[bitsnpcs]

Hello Dana Marsee,

I have had a look at the 15-f272wm page on HP website, via support link (posted by [member=5239]torreydale[/member] ) I expanded specifically to the start menu and bios settings -

https://support.hp.com/in-en/product/hp-...01890#AbT4


It says on boot press Esc key 1 time approximately every 1 second until start up menu appears.
press F9 to enter boot device options
then press F10 to enter BIOS.
then press F9 to enter the BIOS> setup defaults
once cd/dvd drive is selected as first
then press F10 to save and exit.

Please to Note:
It states pressing the ENTER key will reboot the computer to the "hard drive" first.
It can be this was used instead of F10 ?

[Dana Marsee]

Thanks so much for that info...but I finally figured out how to get it to boot from the dvd disk...I went to settings and "recover" and I told it to boot the dvd and it did...and I got her installed. I am a happy camper...  I now have another linux machine.  Down with Windows!!    Thanks everybody for the tips.

[bitsnpcs]

That is great news Dana Marsee I am glad you have got your new Linux Lite machine up and running

[trinidad]

For future reference a note should be added to the help manual as follows: When a USB or DVD won't boot from the device boot menu on a Windows 8.1 or 10 machine even though CSM legacy is enabled and secure boot is disabled it is because Windows is not completely shut down. To shut down Windows completely hold the shift key continously down when clicking shut down on the Windows machine until the machine goes off. This occurs because the option to enable fast boot is in the UI layer of Windows software and not the BIOS. Fast boot must be disabled by a Windows administrator account from the UI in such cases as there is no other option to do so. If fast boot is not disabled Windows genertally hibernates on shutdown instead of shutting completely down, and will not allow boot from media channels. Also on some Windows 10 UEFI machines enabling leagcy will cause Windows not to boot at all without a Windows net disk to install the Windows OS legacy boot loader which is a relic from XP days.

TC

[bitsnpcs]

Very useful info [member=5916]trinidad[/member]
When the shift key is held down on shutdown as you describe the boot dvd will then run on restart (if dvd/usb was inserted before shutdown, ready for boot from) ?

[trinidad]

Yes that is often the case with Windows machines. If it does not work your other alternative is shut down and disconnect all power from the machine battery and/or AC. (hard reset) Windows is normally set to hibernate to recall uninstalled updates, and to enable faster system load of the UI. The shift key works, but you still have to boot the media from the boot device menu. (HP I think is F12) Setting the boot device order has no effect on the hibernated system. You must manually select the media channel but you can't from hibernation mode on many newer machines.

TC

[bitsnpcs]

Thank You [member=5916]trinidad[/member] 

[TheDead]

I did not see in the thread if pressing the F9 and selecting the boot device from the quick boot selector was tried (without entering the BIOS and "saving" the boot sequence). I guess fast boot was the key but in is it not possible to just delete the hibernation file on boot by pressing F8? I dont have Win8/10 but this was possible in Win7/Vista.

Cheerios!

[pingball57]

Hi. I've the exact same problem. As I stated in my intro post. I've mot been here lately & was just about to start a new thread on this same subject. but thought I'd check for any new posts - and found this thread.

I recently bought a backup notebook from fleabay – vendor said from an office clearance. It's got a replacement screen (a tad too small) & the model was stated as HP 15-R125NA (intel N3540 quad) but the model No has been (deliberately?) scratched off the lable. So who knows what it is for sure.

I have exactly the same problem as Dana. Whatever I try it will always start in Win 10. Holding shift down on shutdown has no effect neither does a 'hard reset' , both mentioned above. I have left the BIOS in the following config (having tried every combination i could think of):

  Boot Options
  Post hotkey delay (sec)         <0>
  CD-ROM Boot                 <enabled>
  Internal Network Adapter Boot <Disabled>
  Network Boot Protocol         <IPV4 (legacy)>
  Legacy Support         <enabled>
  Secure Boot         <Disabled>
  Platform Key                 Enrolled
  Pending Action         None
  Clear All Secure Boot Keys
  Load HP Factory Default Keys            [can't get the enables etc. to line up properly]

  UEFI Boot Order
  USB Diskette or Key/USB Hard Disk
>OS Boot Manager
  USB CD/DVD ROM Drive
  Internal  CD/DVD ROM Drive
! Network Adapter

  Legacy Boot Order
  USB Diskette or Key/USB Hard Disk
  USB CD/DVD ROM Drive
>Notebook Hard Drive
  Internal  CD/DVD ROM Drive
! Network Adapter

( The > infront of OS Boot Manager & Notebook Hard Drive, are solid wedges & not the > I have put. it doesn't matter where i put these options in the stack they always have this >)

There is a comments box next to all this that reads:
When legacy  support is enabled, UEFI Boot order & legacy boot order are both avaiable and UEFI boot order has higher priority than legacy boot order.

If I disable legacy support then Secure boot automaticaly becomes enabled & only UEFI Boot Order is highlighted & not both as here.

I have only tried to install  Linux distro's on 2-3 laptops & have never encountered a BIOS that looks like this. I think it's Microsoft deliberately trying to 'dissuade' people from getting rid of Windows x.

On the plus side, all this has been half solved by 'TheDeaD's post above. If I go f9 on bootup & select the boot option for USB from there (with the USB in place from the beginning) it will boot to Linuxlite from the live USB.

I say half solved. I was wanting to install as a dual boot & when the install of LL reaches the install options it says:

'This computer currently has no detected operating system, what would like to do?'

So I don't get the option to install alongside, only erase disc & install.

I would rather dual boot. Any Ideas?