Linux Lite 2.8 Suggestion Thread

[avj]

@Ottah, You should read through the forum posting guidelines, the pictures you have posted links to don't follow the guidelines and may be difficult for older forum users to see.

https://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/intro...g78/#msg78

[torreydale]

@Ottah,

On suggestion 1, in the panel, the window that is on top does have a different color, even in MediterraneanLight.  I will admit that I do change the Window Manager theme to something else for the people I help, mainly because in MediterraneanLight, it is difficult to grab the edge or corner of a window to resize it because the borders are so thin.  It is doable, but you have to be more precise with your mouse pointer than you have to with the Kokodi or Daloa Window Manager themes.  But I'm not to the point where I feel I need to insist on a change to the default Window Manager.

On suggestion 2, you can go to the Panel settings (Menu, Settings, Panel) and there you'll see, under the Display tab, a section called Measurements.  It is there where you can adjust the sizing of your panel.

On suggestion 3, you may just need to do a forum or web search on hot corners for xfce and window tiling/cascading for xfce.

On suggestion 4, I don't know if we'd be able to do that without jettisoning the Whisker Menu and the XFCE desktop environment for something else or seriously altering them.

On suggestion 5, I disagree.  The at-a-glance view and the simple check box are what make it great.  Furthermore, the "rather than simple tick boxes" position is antithetical to the "Simple, Fast, Free" motto of Linux Lite.  Lite Software isn't in competition with the Ubuntu Software Center.  But as long as we're talking about the Ubuntu Software Center, see the forum thread titled "Another reason I'm glad I chose Linux Lite" at https://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/on-to.../#msg16581.

But I get that you want someone like your folks to have a beginner friendly, menu driven alternative to the Install/Remove Software app (also known as Synaptic Package Manager).  In that case, consider installing the Lubuntu Software Center.  Again Lite Software isn't in competition with this.  Lite Software is designed to be a very small repository of the most installed "types" of software that a user may want to use.  It's not supposed to include every option for web browsers, chess games, media players, online storage centers, etc.  Oftentimes, what gets added to or removed from Lite Software is based on polling the members of this forum. 

On suggestion 6, I disagree.  While in Linux Lite the "Move to Trash" option equals the default behavior of Windows' "Delete" option, in Linux Lite, the Move to trash and Delete options are next to one another and reasonably intuitive just by their names.  There is a Trash folder, so when you move something to trash, you're moving it to that folder.  When you attempt to Delete something, there is a popup warning you that Delete means permanent deletion from your computer.  I like these default settings.  Sometimes I want to do the two-step; other times I just want to completely remove.

On suggestion 7, our package managers have been good at managing this.  Within our LTS (Long Term Support) model, security or version updates that come from upstream aren't likely to cause instability.  As a member of this forum, what I've noticed causing instability is a user removing a lot of default programs, making kernel upgrades on their own, or installing alternative desktop environments.  This seems to be unlikely behavior for your folks.

[Lend27]

PLease, please, please, add UEFI install option.

That is my only request. 

Thanks
Len

[firenice03]

@Ottah,

On suggestion 2, you can go to the Panel settings (Menu, Settings, Panel) and there you'll see, under the Display tab, a section called Measurements.  It is there where you can adjust the sizing of your panel.

Sorry - I was off a tad    but its the measurements here as torreydale suggests...

[Teddy]

One thing that I would suggest is to remove the deja dup backup utility since 2.6 (and later ones I assume) will come with Systemback. Save ISO space when you can!

Another thing is to add the Ctrl+Shift+Esc shortcut, to bring up the task manager as it does in Windows. One of my most used buttons when it comes to Windows, and yall probably know why lol

[Valtam]

I like that Teddy (Task Manager shortcut), consider it done.

Keep them coming folks, this is great!

[torreydale]

To Teddy and Jerry,

On removing Deja Dup in favor of Systemback, the folks at LXLE are doing the same thing.  I think I know, but I'm not 100% sure.  How does Systemback replace Deja Dup?  Particularly at the file level?  Is this happening when one creates a restore point?  I've noticed my restore points are rather large.  I assume it's creating a copy of my root partition.  If I added my home partition to the restore point list, will that back up everything in the home partition and allow me to restore at the file level?

[zapinguete]

Jerry Me as well as Lend27 have the most important suggestion for any Linux Dist
I have installed LL2.6 to a dozen ppl in my town West Palm Beach,FL,USA
The most important suggestion is support for UEFI
We want to install LL2.8 to as many computers as we can but we must have support for UEFI so that ppl can just launch the installation without having to modify their BIOS,something that most ppl are terrified with and don't have a clue of what they will be doing to their PCs
Again this is for ppl that are not tech savvy and will make LL2.8 much easier to install in any PC,this is for the masses
Thank you Jerry.

Ari Torres.

Note:we must not worry too much about cosmetics but functionality and keeping the distro to a minimum,disregard systemback or dejadup, apps can be easily added later 

[Valtam]

It's too late to include UEFI, it would require a new build script, but as has been previously mentioned we will try for the 3.0 series.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

[torreydale]

Jerry's already reluctantly affirmed that UEFI support is on the table going forward.  I don't have any qualms about that.

I do disagree with the zapinguete's note at the end of his post.  Eliminating both Deja Dup and Systemback actually reduces functionality, in my opinion.  And currently, Systemback isn't easily installed afterwards.  Unless a script for it were added to Lite Software, a new user would have to be familiar with installing Systemback via a terminal and PPA commands.  It wasn't so long ago that I didn't know how to do that, much less the people I've helped convert to Linux Lite.

The Linux Lite download is still amazingly under 800MB, and considering that the compositor is off by default and that Faenza is the default icon set, I would say that the distro is very focused on functionality over cosmetics.  And yet, the distro still comes with the base to allow customization wonks to have their fun. 

To contrast, ElementaryOS is a minimal distro.  In my opinion, you have to install too much as a user for it to be considered beginner friendly.  And Elementary is very high on cosmetics.  It's still one of my top 4 favorite distros, but I don't run it on my own machines, and I don't install it for other people. 

I know the Linux Lite target is the Windows user, particularly Windows XP.  But in order to be attractive, we don't have to be so much like XP where we install without an office suite, backup tool, cd/dvd burner, pdf viewer, email client, partitioning tool, or a help manual.