Can not install LL4

[TheDead]

Hi,

If it's dual boot, could be that there's a conflict with how Windows 10 handles the file system... you already mentionned you tried partition the HDD in GParted with MBR/MS-DOS so,is Windows 10 still there? If you could backup Windows 10 and try to wipe the HDD before installing.

Also, stroke of luck... I have fetched a DELL Vostro 3500 laptop from stock.I'll clone the hard drive and try to fresh-install LL4.0 on it.(mine is Windows 7, maybe I'll try a dual boot too).If there's something wrong with the hardware I should have the same problems as you I guest.
** What is your BIOS version? Is the HDD in RAID/AHCI or Compatible/Other mode?

@JerryAny pointers that you wan't us to try?

It's a bit different though, here's the specs :
CPU
Intel Core i5 460M
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics + nVidia GeForce 310M
Storage
It's either a normal HDD or an SSD (SATA) , can't remember, I'll have to check.
Optical Drives
DVD-RW (SATA I guess)
Audio
IDT HD Audio
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[kissbaby3]

i never used a USB stick before.

have you tried to burn the Linux Lite 4.0 ISO onto a DVD disc ?(burn image to disc) ?. and then have it boot as a live DVD and click on the install icon thats shows on the desktop ?, try that .

i know one of the reasons why people use the USB method, its because most PC's dont have a DVD burner, i always make sure  any cumputer i have has a cd/dvd burner .

[TheDead]

[member=7250]kissbaby3[/member] has a good idea.
I didn't unpack the Vostro yet and don't know if it's DVD-less pour I confirm that I have some USB issues sometimes, on different machines.
Side notes : If you still have Windows on there, be sure to have the latest BIOS version and/or reset BIOS setings to default and redo them.
If I don't arrive home too late tonight, I'll do that LL4 install .

[vectra246]

I did yesterday a BIOS update and that bricked my Vostro

I am trying to restore it but it doesn't seem good for that.
Tried various way i found on Google-O-matic but with no succes.

Until you hear from me different i stop in this topic.

Many thanks

[TheDead]

[member=8071]vectra246[/member]

Sorry for your troubles , I have flashed DELL computers and servers hundreds of times in the past and never had problems with their official updaters...

There is a solution here for a recovery procedure here :https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General-Read-Only/Vostro-3500-BIOS-Update-Failed-Recovery-Procedure-Needed/td-p/4437548(using a prepared USB key and holding the END key)
Download for DELL products are at support.dell.com .Enter your service tag (under laptop) in the product number / service tag field and you'll get to the page specific for you computer for downloads/etc.

Hope this helps!

[vectra246]

I've tried that. But nothing.

When i connect the vostro to the powersource and hold the END key the USB flashdrive lite up once, than the fan of the notebook starts and nothing happens.

I've put my SSD in a old Acer notebook and LL is running again  much better than Windows ;D

[TheDead]

Glad you had a spare lying around...

But, I must continue this thread. I have tried to install Linux Lite 4.0 on this DELL Vostro 3500 (from USB but I don't think it's related).
I have a problem I never had before. In live boot, I can't install, even in safe mode.
When I click on Install Linux Lite, the waiting wheel spins for about 10-15 seconds and disapears and nothing happens.
Same with GParted, wheel and nothing. I am able to open the other (Gnome?) disk utility though.

Since it had Windows I took the chance and updated to latest BIOS version A12 and worked for me.Also, it's a standard SATA 500G. Maybe the hybrid graphics card setup makes trouble (Intel HD + Geforce 310M).

So I guess... erm... help?
ADD: Woot! My 400th post!

[TheDead]

Ok,

Some update on this problem. I tried using 4.2beta and got same problem.
I searched around and found that disabling the Windows Hibernation could help (I already disabled Fast Startup).
*BUT* in the process I saw that two systemd-udevd services were using 25-30% and 10-15% CPU constantly.
I forced closed them. Combined with disabling Hibernation I was them able to open GParted and also install LL4.0.

*BUT 2* once installed the two systemd-udevd services STILL use about 50% CPU combined and still cannot open Gparted from menu after install and neither Taskmanager. -- From Termnial I can open them with sudo gpartedbin and xfce4-taskmanager though.
I cant kill systemd-udevd services once installed, them always comeback and use 50% CPU

[TheDead]

Solving my own problem
Wow!... here's a temporary fix for the high CPU usage from the magical world of Google search :
sudo systemctl stop systemd-udevd systemd-udevd-kernel.socket systemd-udevd-control.socket
sudo systemctl start systemd-udevd systemd-udevd-kernel.socket systemd-udevd-control.socket
(For a permanent one you have to change some system files, which I'm trying out later.)
UPDATE : Worked, you have to sudo nano /lib/udev/rules.d/97-hid2hci.rules and add the line ACTION=="add" before the device. In my case making it look like this :
ACTION=="add", ATTR{bInterfaceClass}=="03", ATTR{bInterfaceSubClass}=="01", ATTR{bInterfaceProtocol}=="02", \
  ATTRS{bDeviceClass}=="00", ATTRS{idVendor}=="413c", ATTRS{bmAttributes}=="e0", \
  RUN+="hid2hci --method=dell --devpath=%p", ENV{HID2HCI_SWITCH}="1"


After this, CPU usage comes back to normal (the permanent fix stays after reboot).
From the link, this could be related to bluez (bluetooth) , bluetooth/touchpad or wireless. Could be a kernel problem, etc.https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028883/...-with-wifi
Gparted and Taskmanager from menu open fine and fast now.

Cheers!