Browsers in Lite

[smhardesty]

I'm really settling in with Seamonkey. I have installed only 3 extensions - Adblock Plus, DownThemAll, and Sea Fox. I had just a bit of trouble getting Adblock Plus to install. Turns out that the current version of it doesn't work on Seamonkey ver 2.46, so I had to find a previous version of Adblock that would work. That makes no sense, but it works. I have ver 2.82 installed instead of 2.91 and it's working just fine. DownThemAll was no trouble and neither was Sea Fox. I only installed Sea Fox to make Seamonkey a little more familiar to me. It changes just enough of the interface to make me feel at home. One caveat to installing was that I now have a "Close Tab" X on each tab instead of a single X on the far right side. I had tried to find some way to do that yesterday and couldn't get it done. I had planned on doing some more research into that, but after I installed Sea Fox I had no reason to.

I did a little unscientific and crude testing of Seamonkey versus Firefox. I did this more to convince myself I really wanted to leave Firefox behind and go forward with Seamonkey being my every day browser of choice. I loaded pages in each browser that I knew took a little extra time to load. On every occasion Seamonkey beat Firefox hands down. I then decided to try running bandwidth speed tests on several different sites. This is the one thing that didn't make sense to me. The actual download and upload speed results were the same. I expected that, but the ping times were quite a bit different. That one got me. I'm not really sure why ping times in Seamonkey were quicker than in Firefox, but they were. Then I performed simple page loads while watching my resources. Seamonkey definitely won there. It wasn't as significant a difference as I thought it might be, but Seamonkey won for sure.

[newtusmaximus]

I have been using MIN as a very light quick browser.  No fuss  Review= http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/minim...wser-linux

[smhardesty]

MIN. Now there is a browser I can honestly say I've never heard of. Might be one more I need to add to my list to try out.

[trinidad]

Linux Lite is certainly the best distro for Windows refugees and converts. The GUI is without a doubt the most easily grasped by new users coming from Windows. It is always my first recommendation to people looking for an alternative to MS. I follow the forum here regularly and keep both an up to date 32 and 64 bit LL system for testing and reference, and I burn new dvds regularly of the ISO to stay current for any new users that might come to me with the desire try LL. That said my personal and business systems are Deb 8, Deb 9, and Windows 10. What follows is my opinion about browsers, and some simple common sense assessments of why I recommend them, even though the choices may be boring.

For Linux:

1) Firefox quite simply because Mozilla has the most resources for development and integration with current Linux systems, and is also the most likely to be up to date as far as security for the same reason.

2) Forg if you play with Gopher. Everything else uses insecure addons.

3) Tor if you live outside the US. You may browse anonymously with it, but if you use a major ISP in the US you’ll draw a flag from big brother, and they may decide to monitor everything you do online for a while. Mathematically, ridiculously so, you’re likely to be more anonymous using Windows 10 if you use a major ISP in the US. If you’re a terrorist or a criminal you’re better off with Android and a burner phone.

Other than pure text browsers, and console or forensic browsing, most of the Linux browsers of any ilk are based on Mozilla. Have been for long time now.

For Windows 10

2) the Edge browser for Windows 10 for similar reasons. MS security updates are integrated to it, and often not to alternative browsers. One of the primary sources of infections for a Windows system is the use of alternative browsers, and gaming, music, video and some shopping sites often install browsers as conditions of use opening up ugly security holes in Windows systems. If you use MS, stick with its native system components.

Worth remembering as well in the US, many important web security efforts are driven by MS and it is easy for a regular Linux user to get out of step with some things. Versions of Firefox below 52 do not work on many online banking sites anymore, and some of the so called lighter browsers will fail you there even though you may think they are on pace with Firefox.

TC

[smhardesty]

Thanks for your input, trinidad. You stated that Firefox is probably the most up to date as far as security is concerned. I've been using SeaMonkey for a bit now and have decided to use it as my daily browser. Before I installed it I did quite a bit of reading articles on the 'Net. I distinctly recall reading one article stating that SeaMonkey received security updates as often as Firefox. I'm no expert on that. Maybe you or somebody else knows for sure and could elaborate a bit. I added the repository to install SeaMonkey via Synaptic and left the repository in my software sources. So any updates to SeaMonkey should be included when I do my updates. Is that correct? I also will occasionally check for updates manually via the 'Help' > 'Check for Updates' method in SeaMonkey.

[Artim]

Seamonkey-build is the package you get from the Ubuntuzilla repository.  It is always updated.  Updates generally aren't needed very often since it has so much less complicated, thousands fewer lines of code than Firefox.

[ultrastevep]

Looks like I'm about 4 or 5 replies behind. Let me take bayoubooger first. I almost didn't see your part of that post. I had to slow myself down and go over it a couple times. Finally saw your problem posted at the bottom. I believe you need to change "ndeb" to just "deb". I never caught the typo when RandmonBoy posted it. Unless you hear differently from RandomBoy or somebody else, I believe you should make that correction, then refresh your list. That should solve that problem.

I've got a glitch in my Repositories too. I haven't taken the time to try and resolve it yet. Might do that when I get done on the forum today. Mine occurred when I added a couple of Repositories so that I could install different image viewers and editors. I need to go see what I did wrong.

I know this is an old posting, but i tried the above and now my repository is messed up. Could anyone let me know how to modify this?

Thanks,
Steve

[ultrastevep]

Never mind, I figured it out myself... :o

I guess it's time to clean install a new Linux Lite build on my Netbook.

[bluzeo]

for me guys it been Chromuim and Brave browser i use brave more then i do Chromuim .

[Searchernow]

Randomboy in this thread offered command llnes for adding SeaMonkey to Synaptic.
Is that information given correct?
I did enter those command lines, now I cannot open Synaptic - I get the following:

An error occurred..

E: Type ‘“ndeb’ is not known on line 20 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read.
Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
E: _cache->open() failed, please report.


I then tried to "Install Updates" and got the following:

===========================
Install Updates Error log
===========================
Install Updates could not fetch the package cache information lists.
Go to https://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/ and paste the log below into a new or existing thread for assistance.

============ Log ===========

E: Type ‘“ndeb’ is not known on line 20 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read.

How do I get out of this?