LINUX LITE 7.2 FINAL RELEASED - SEE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS SECTION FOR DETAILS


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Firefox vs. Chrome
#11
Ottowagrant,

Two normal video extensions, a couple of normal optional Mozilla tracking extensions, and couple of MS system extensions. Widevine is pretty much necessary for decent proprietary video content. Used by netflix, amazon, pay as you go streamers, etc. Pretty much the standard now. Browser extensions are mostly driven by Google and Android development not MS.

I have used every browser and most of the OSs mentioned here, and quite honestly, for universal usability no browser on any OS outperforms Firefox and in Ubuntu it is certainly the best choice for performance. Seamonkey in LXLE used more ram to load than Firefox in LL on the same machine for me, and though Firefox also briefly peaked the cpu in LL, Seamonkey in LXLE peaked it longer. For reasonably good performance with video etc. you do need at least 500mb of ram and preferably at least a dual core cpu, but so does Seamonkey. Modern browsers are all ram expensive when loading, and cpu and ram expensive with video/audio/etc. They're not going to run on an i486 double space 66mhz machine even though the space shuttle did once unless you beowulf cluster about twenty-five of them together. Web innovation today is driven by companies like google and amazon. The Internet, the old informational institutional Internet with gopher and labyrinth etc, is long gone. The Wiki web is faster but a whole lot less accurate in content than the vast University library and government resources that were once available. Let's face it. Nix is old too. Luckily it has proved to be flexible for the old timer it is, and old timers can still use it even if they are not as flexible. Want some fun and an old school educational tour try E-links in the lx sub-system on Windows 10, or the FORG in your LL system. 

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#12
I would try Sea Monkey again but I like my browser separate from my mail program (Thunderbird) in case browser locks up or crashes and don't need a webpage editor or RSS reader (handled by Thunderbird).


I researched it and read that the default download is 32 bit and getting the 64 bit is more complicated. Since it is not in the repos or Lite Software, there may be problems keeping up it to date.
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#13
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Gopher... wow talk about flashback! Wink Think we had Veronica(?) too. Usenet and stuff for Amiga.
Anyways, what do you think of PaleMoon? Tried it again yesterday, seems to have come a long way.
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#14
I've tried many browsers; Vivaldi, Seamonkey, Tor, Midori, Maxthon, Torch, Comodo, UCBrowser - Windows only - and Firefox, Opera and Chrome which I currently have installed in Lite. Which one is better? Well, in Windows after several trials the one I like better is UCBrowser; it's chrome based and have quite a few handy features to boost browsing and downloading speed, and yes, they work! Unfortunately it's not available on Linux. I'd say that regarding Firefox, Opera and Chrome each one has its flaws and strengths. Performance will vary in every machine as well as user experience and preferences. However, Firefox and Opera seems to use less resources than Chrome, but then again, Chrome seems to load a little faster than Firefox and Opera. When I tried Seamonkey I found it quite buggy. Midori, Maxthon, Vivaldi and Comodo quite slow to load. Torch, well at that time it didn't work for me, so I can't say anything about it. I used Tor but then I've learnt that for having a real "Tor experience" it should be used with Tails, otherwise it miss its purpose. I don't know if you guys know of this site http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/ which claims to be "The Universal Browser Test" but still, there's the link in case you don't. I ran the tests on each browser and it showed similar features for Chrome, Firefox and Opera in Lite.  ;D 
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#15
From what I read, FutureMark stopped working on Peacemaker quite a while ago. Sad
About a year ago I tested browsers with JetStream, SunSpider, Panopticlick, BrowserScope and HTML5Test.
I must says that in the end get a good Firewall able to block manually if needed and + Antivirus and use the browser or open-browser you like most. Dont beat yourself up with a super-secure and a pain to use browser. Or even better put all that in a virtual machine.
I'll stay with PaleMoon for now, see how it goes. I'll try brave this weekend Wink

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(09-19-2017, 02:52 PM)Coastie link Wrote: I researched it and read that the default download is 32 bit and getting the 64 bit is more complicated. Since it is not in the repos or Lite Software, there may be problems keeping up it to date.

I have the 64bit version installed and keep it updated via normal update procedure. I added the 'ubuntuzilla' repository to my software sources and then did the install via Synaptic. The 64bit version was automatically installed. Here is the result of  'file /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey', which reports whether an application is 32bit or 64bit.


Code:
/opt/seamonkey/seamonkey: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=dc9c2f430477b55fa94e407917222caabf37a89a, stripped

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#17
I have been researching how to install the Brave browser. It is more complicated on Linux than other OS. After watching a CNET video from 1/21/16. I am having second thoughts. It may have changed since the video was made but the plan then was for Brave to replace ads on sites with ones based on your browsing history. Don't like tracking to start with and sounds like it will eventually slow down the browser once it start showing its own ads.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5155BflFE1s
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#18
Running SeaMonkey with AdBlock Plus and I see almost no ads. An occasional one gets through, but I'll say I'm 99% ad free.
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I'm going to give Seamonkey a try. http://www.freecinema2022.gq/forums/on-top...n#msg35356
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#20
I leave ads unblocked on sites I support, like LL Forums, Distrowatch, etc., and enable the adblocker (on Seamonkey) the rest of the time. 
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