[SOLVED] LL2.2 Running from a USB stick only?

[N4RPS]

Hello!

An SSD using a USB interface most likely won't be appreciably faster. For both electromechanical hard drives and SSDs, the bottleneck is the USB interface.

If you get yourself an SSD, plug it into a SATA port. That's where I put mine...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob

[newtusmaximus]

If I understand correctly, USB flash drives are vulnerable to repeated read write and hence potential data loss at some stage..  Therefore is there a way to install LL2.2 to a usb stick  and overcome this potential problem.  Have just purchased a 64GB usb 2.0 stick to try out. 

What is the "persistent" option all about - pointers welcomed. Thanks

[Wirezfree]

Hi,

USB sticks are generally O.K, I think you maybe thinking of the first generation SSD's.
The current generation of SSD's are using different technology, and will last for years.
They are now used in data centres where they are subject to "Terrabytes" of R/W cycles.
Samsung 840/850's are very good.

If I remember correctly, the persistence is used when you create a "Live Stick",
but want the ability to save files and settings after you shutdown.

You are not creating a "Live Stick",
But are are doing an "actuall" install to the USB Stick.
See goldfingers post.

Dave

[rokytnji]

What is the "persistent" option all about - pointers welcomed. Thanks

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/what-is-persistent-linux/

I would not do a kernel install/upgrade on a persistent live iso.
Application installs and tweaks to preferences stick on reboot like a regular install.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent

[ukbrian]

I started playing with USB's a couple of weeks ago in I suppose an unconventional way.

I used saline-backup to clone my running OS on my hdd to a usb and put grub on the usb's mbr but if I F12 and select the usb it don't boot from it, I've tried with fat32 and ext4 but I'm one of life's losers, I was born a male after all, I guess I should read about it but that irritates me that I have to for something so simple.

If I boot to my hdd and update grub it will then appear in the grub menu and I can boot into it and it has persistance and I can put it in any other machine and clone it to the hdd so it seems to me to be a good way of using usb's, I've tweaked the script so it auto creates the data folder that got excluded and I added a line to where it creates the new fstab so when I boot from the clone everything works with mounting my data partition and symlinks.

I can install my os onto a usb3 in 10 minutes so it's a good backup shall we say to do before an upgrade, if the upgrade borks you just clone the usb back or get your work done on the usb, your never stuck with nothing to boot into toothandnail and it works on stable or the new Jessie that's due out, a very useful tool.

off topic but
Question
What is 14.04 based on, is it a snapshot of Debian that's taken roughly 6-9 months before debian testing goes into the freeze period for the next stable which I would think would be bad time to take a snapshot.

Also if the new debian stable comes out 12 months after the LTS which OS is the most up to date?

What you lose are PPA's  but if I was in business I would be running my licenced copies of XP and office in a virtual machine and taking regular snapshots of the virtual machine, using tools I'm already familiar with., said the old fool.


Why do I bother, young folk never listed they know best

[rokytnji]

Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Support) Releases

Each Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Support) release will initially be based on the Debian Testing branch. These releases take Ubuntu's approach of making Linux accessible to inexperienced users, and constitute a release that is going to be kept stable for five years (before 12.04 three years) into the future, receiving security updates and some occasional bug fixes during that time, but remaining otherwise unchanged.

Essentially, an Ubuntu LTS release is made in the same way as a non-LTS release, except that it will be kept stable and supported for a lot longer, including by Canonical's own paid support services. In addition, it was decided that Ubuntu LTS releases should initially be based on Debian Testing rather than the similarly unstable but sometimes buggier Debian Unstable.

It is intended that every fourth Ubuntu release shall become an LTS release, thus Ubuntu LTS releases are made every two years. The most current Ubuntu LTS release is Ubuntu 14.04.

from

http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Debian_vs_Ubuntu

[ukbrian]

It's still not logical to me Bro, The best two linux's I've run were Saline OS debian stable and Solus OS which had a stable base but updated kernels and apps, I was like a pig in clover or summat and then within six months both had closed down and left Debian, Anthony went to Manjaro and Ikey built his new linux base, two guys I have huge respect for as devs ditched debian.

[rokytnji]

Confusion can kick in when a developer like Ubuntu throws in their own servers and add apps that are not in
Debian servers. Then you have personal ppa that add to even more confusion.

SolydXK tried that route till the developer imploded trying to support business, home, and whatever else
by trying to have only SolydXK repo lines for package management. With their own package updater system also.

They have since moved on to using Jessie lines in the /etc/apt/sources.list instead.
It is not easy trying to run/support a distro.

It takes money, time, and a brotherhood of users. That is why I like BBQ Linux. They do not pretend to be what they are not. Read their forum sometime for a good grin. I go there when I feel depressed.
Their posts pick me right up.

[ukbrian]

I just spent 45 minutes writing a reply post  and when I did a preview with no way back, I normally paste a copy of a post in a txt doc befor I preview but forgot, bl**dy computors!!




I'm off down the cafe, I'll reply later Bro

[Valtam]

Hmm, looks like our friendly forum neighborhood ghost is back