11-07-2014, 05:35 PM
Not trying to start/continue a "browser war" here. And by no means is any of below meant to be construed as a personal attack on eightbit or anyone else. Just clarifying a couple of points and expressing my own personal opinion on Google.
Tracking is built-in to individual websites, not Firefox.
"Do Not Track" is just a placebo to placate public fears. It does absolutely NOTHING to stop tracking in either Firefox, Chrome, or any other browser. It merely sends a request to the website to not track you. There are no teeth to that request. There is no consequence suffered by the website if it chooses to ignore that request. And, to my knowledge, there is no notice to the user that said website ignored the request.
Adobe continues to support the old linux flash-plugin with security updates; it just won't produce new plugins for it. My understanding is that they are gradually fading out support for flash entirely (for Windows too) over the coming years.
Personally, I have not yet run into any problems at all viewing flash content with current plugin. Maybe I'm just lucky, I don't know. Other things (Hal or Silverlight) do need to be added to LL in order to view DRM content (eg. Amazon Prime movies), but that has given me no problem either.
I don't use Netflix, so can't speak to that. Definitely a good reason to use Chrome for those who can not get it to work otherwise.
Compromises do have to be made here and there -- that is inevitable and unavoidable. Decisions rarely are simply black and white and I didn't mean to imply that Google must be avoided at any and all costs. They do have the best search engine; and I do use it on occations myself.
Everyone has their own hierarchy of values. What's very important to one person may be significantly less important to another. Google is just one example of an organization that I believe behaves in a deceiptful manner and deserves to be shunned whenever possible. To me, making it the default browser is equivalent to condoning what they do and lending support and validity to their business model.
With regard to Google in particular, I've felt this way and acted accordingly for over 10 years -- so current "popularity" has absolutely nothing to do with it in my case.
That's fine. Everyone has their own "line in the sand" so to speak. Google crossed mine.
(11-07-2014, 05:19 AM)eightbit link Wrote: The funny thing is that by default Firefox is set to track *as well*. You have to turn it off in your settings (the same as Chrome):
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/dnt/
Interesting that I just visited this link with the default included Firefox in LL 2.0, and "Do Not Track" is set to OFF by default.
Tracking is built-in to individual websites, not Firefox.
"Do Not Track" is just a placebo to placate public fears. It does absolutely NOTHING to stop tracking in either Firefox, Chrome, or any other browser. It merely sends a request to the website to not track you. There are no teeth to that request. There is no consequence suffered by the website if it chooses to ignore that request. And, to my knowledge, there is no notice to the user that said website ignored the request.
(11-07-2014, 05:19 AM)eightbit link Wrote: How is it when that newcomer opens Firefox and cannot view modern flash content because the default Linux flash plugin is no longer supported by Adobe and will never get another update beyond the now extremely outdated v11?
Adobe continues to support the old linux flash-plugin with security updates; it just won't produce new plugins for it. My understanding is that they are gradually fading out support for flash entirely (for Windows too) over the coming years.
Personally, I have not yet run into any problems at all viewing flash content with current plugin. Maybe I'm just lucky, I don't know. Other things (Hal or Silverlight) do need to be added to LL in order to view DRM content (eg. Amazon Prime movies), but that has given me no problem either.
I don't use Netflix, so can't speak to that. Definitely a good reason to use Chrome for those who can not get it to work otherwise.
Compromises do have to be made here and there -- that is inevitable and unavoidable. Decisions rarely are simply black and white and I didn't mean to imply that Google must be avoided at any and all costs. They do have the best search engine; and I do use it on occations myself.
Everyone has their own hierarchy of values. What's very important to one person may be significantly less important to another. Google is just one example of an organization that I believe behaves in a deceiptful manner and deserves to be shunned whenever possible. To me, making it the default browser is equivalent to condoning what they do and lending support and validity to their business model.
(11-07-2014, 05:19 AM)eightbit link Wrote: The only thing I can see for not wanting Chrome is because it is currently popular to "hate" Google.
With regard to Google in particular, I've felt this way and acted accordingly for over 10 years -- so current "popularity" has absolutely nothing to do with it in my case.
(11-07-2014, 05:19 AM)eightbit link Wrote: I personally do not care whom delivers the goods...as long as they work good
That's fine. Everyone has their own "line in the sand" so to speak. Google crossed mine.
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