04-06-2015, 02:25 AM
(04-05-2015, 04:46 AM)Jerry link Wrote: [quote author=technomancer link=topic=1637.msg13524#msg13524 date=1428203948]
Sooner or later UEFI must be supported, seriously guys. All new hardware is using UEFI not BIOS.
Please , Please, get UEFI setup next release..... :-\
Hi technomancer, I'm almost completely against making UEFI work and I'll explain why. Microsoft has a history of dictating to hardware vendors. This is unethical and limits peoples choices. Just because a software vendor (MS) dominates a market does not give them the right to restrict a person's choice. This is a direct attack on freedom itself. I'm not a MS 'hater' I like technology, and technologically they have produced some useful innovations throughout the years.
If one day we are left with absolutely no choice at all but to submit to MS in the BIOS, then for the sake of getting more people off Windows, I think it will be worth us sacrificing this principle, in an effort to set them free. I'm a realist, but I'm also an optimist. I'm optimistic that people who are thinking of using Linux more and more, will make informed hardware choices, and favour hardware vendors that don't force people into a corner. Freedom must always be the first consideration.
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@Jerry- I completely agree with your position and thinking. You are an awesome individual, I wish more people had the same stance.
The only issue is that few hardware vendors will agree with that position, the loss of sales for them would be devastating. Unfortunately the hardware vendors are a profit driven economy, where as Linux is not. Money talks...I in no way defend that position, but at some point we must all adapt to changing circumstances.Right or wrong, UEFI is on 98% of computers, which will limit LinuxLite ability to get new users/support. I love the hard work and vision that you have with LinuxLite, as long as I have a BIOS computer, LinuxLite will be on them. My hat off to you sir.
@gold_finger- I have tried 2 different brands of DVD's, no luck. I used Unetbootin and Lili to create a USB, they refuse to boot( tried 5 different brands ) I have tried the same hardware/DVD/USB with Ubuntu and LimuxMint, they both boot, install and run fine.(UEFI a built in feature on the OS) Apparantly from what I have seen in Asus forums their products are getting cheaper/worse as far as compliance with "windows only" hardware. They will not support Linux unless it was what the laptop was originally sold with. I am a certified Dell tech, maybe back to Dell ? They are just as bad, if not worse. However the hardware is easier to deal with I have found.
If I ever get it working(will try in a couple months again) I will post my results here. For now I need to concentrate on other matters.
Thank you for the suggestions and help, this community is the best I have ever been a part of. Thank you very much BOTH of you.
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*Hardware hacks are my speciality.
"forum posts should be like a skirt- long enough to cover the subject material, but short enough to keep things interesting"
--I am using/Running Linuxlite 2.8, Debian8 server, Ubuntu 14, Win7,Win10, MX15, LinuxMint kde.
--Xerox field service engineer, printer repairs,network analyst.