LINUX LITE 7.2 FINAL RELEASED - SEE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS SECTION FOR DETAILS


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XFCE vs KDE

(01-02-2020, 10:19 AM)amigo link Wrote: Jerry, thank you for taking LL to where it is today.
I'm 74, so do me a favor. Stay with xfce for a few more years. After I'm gone, do what you want.
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Amigo, your plea strikes a chord ...

In a world that's constantly changing in the name of 'progress', maybe it's reassuring to know that some things remain the same, especially when they do their job perfectly: "If it ain't broke why fix it?" 

To be perfectly honest, right now, I prefer to sit on the fence for KDE vs XFCE debate ...

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I'd like to reiterate what Jerry stated earlier.  It seems like some of us are making anecdotal history affect how we feel about this issue.

Antergos doesn't exist anymore.  Github is now owned by Microsoft.  Those are two recent examples of how the past does not equal the future.  My guess is the majority of all users do most of their computing via a browser and they occasionally access a file manager.  Switching desktop environments isn't going to rock the world of grandma or grandpa as long as the browser icon is still in the bottom left, next to the file manager icon and the Menu button.  That can be accomplished in KDE.  So relax.

There would likely be a developmental version of Linux Lite KDE so that we in the forum can test it out and report issues.  A desktop environment change for a production version of Linux Lite isn't even in the cards before June 2022.  That is over two years from now.  And that is the earliest this would happen, if it happens at all.

We should stop being so kneejerk about this and let Jerry do his thing.
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(01-02-2020, 03:32 PM)torreydale link Wrote: I'd like to reiterate what Jerry stated earlier.  It seems like some of us are making anecdotal history affect how we feel about this issue.

Antergos doesn't exist anymore.  Github is now owned by Microsoft.  Those are two recent examples of how the past does not equal the future.  My guess is the majority of all users do most of their computing via a browser and they occasionally access a file manager.  Switching desktop environments isn't going to rock the world of grandma or grandpa as long as the browser icon is still in the bottom left, next to the file manager icon and the Menu button.  That can be accomplished in KDE.  So relax.

There would likely be a developmental version of Linux Lite KDE so that we in the forum can test it out and report issues.  A desktop environment change for a production version of Linux Lite isn't even in the cards before June 2022.  That is over two years from now.  And that is the earliest this would happen, if it happens at all.

We should stop being so kneejerk about this and let Jerry do his thing.

Once again you've absolutely nailed everything, it's like our minds have melded into one Smile
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(01-02-2020, 03:32 PM)torreydale link Wrote: There would likely be a developmental version of Linux Lite KDE so that we in the forum can test it out and report issues.  A desktop environment change for a production version of Linux Lite isn't even in the cards before June 2022.  That is over two years from now.  And that is the earliest this would happen, if it happens at all.

I would definitely throw out a dev edition on any drastic change to LL, including a change in DE. To release suddenly a LL KDE without any prior warning or consultation, well, it's simply unthinkable for me. To reiterate, this thread is asking for opinions on such a switch. A thread title does not imply an impending move to KDE. It simply asks the question...what if?
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(01-03-2020, 12:35 AM)Jerry link Wrote: I would definitely throw out a dev edition on any drastic change to LL, including a change in DE. To release suddenly a LL KDE without any prior warning or consultation, well, it's simply unthinkable for me. To reiterate, this thread is asking for opinions on such a switch. A thread title does not imply an impending move to KDE. It simply asks the question...what if?
It's always fun to experiment  Smile . If a test version comes about I will help. KDE with LL is a galvanising idea to me.

P.S. Forgive me if my first couple sentences of my last post appeared to be a bit inimical, but then again, this is one of those 'opening a can of worms' kind of topics.

(01-02-2020, 06:53 AM)Teddy link Wrote: I ... will welcome it if you decide so ...
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A very good article/tutorial on KDE's plasma desktop; how tos, tips and tricks. I learnt a lot from it http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/201...ial-Plasma

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Some excellent views on both sides of the table here. Thank you to everyone who offered information here, this community is wonderful! I have a lot to think about.
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And KDE closer to the top in alphebetical order than XFCE! Wink

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Since Xfce went to GTK3 (which is a lot "heavier" than GTK2) and KDE went to Plasma 5 (much lighter than before), their resource consumption is comparable!  Gnome is still a fat resource hog though.
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One frinstance of issues with Plasma is digikam.

Certainly from 18.04 and up to and including 'buntu 19.10 there's a qt library clash which means the digikam will not open an image for editing after opening one previously.

This is purely down to the frozen side of Debian/Ubuntu development and release process. So that's effectively 2 years of dysfunction.

Now I appreciate that for many that's a "who cares" moment, but actually digikam is a very widely used bit of software - and yes there are alternatives and no I don't need to know about them thank you.
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