XFCE vs KDE

[robinc]

Just had a quick look at the state of KDE Plasma - still as horrible as ever.

If LL is going down this route I'll say goodbye now.

Thanks, but no thanks 

[Artim]

One of the reasons a lot of us prefer Xfce is because of it's "slow" development.  There have been no huge, major, sudden changes to the Xfce desktop that are so severe you can hardly recognize it, as has been the case with both Gnome and KDE.  While the Big Guys have lots of great features and stuff, their rapid development inevitably leads to bugs, regressions, and sudden incompatibility with some software.  Give me slow and steady any day.

[robinc]

One of the reasons a lot of us prefer Xfce is because of it's "slow" development.  There have been no huge, major, sudden changes to the Xfce desktop that are so severe you can hardly recognize it, as has been the case with both Gnome and KDE.  While the Big Guys have lots of great features and stuff, their rapid development inevitably leads to bugs, regressions, and sudden incompatibility with some software.  Give me slow and steady any day.

The only horrids coming down the wire for XFCE are in the full move to GTK3 - so no more simple config files to tweak xfce - now it's all .css - YUK!!!

Try out MX-19 if you want to see the future for XFCE - most of it is pretty OK, and indeed on the surface little has changed - but I really really hate drop shadow text on the desktop and whilst it is easy to remove in XFCE now, in 4.14 it isn't quite so simple.

Between now and 18.04 expiry date there's a few years so maybe something else will pop out of the woodwork 

[torreydale]

[size=1em]One of the reasons a lot of us prefer Xfce is because of it's "slow" development.  [/size]

[size=1em]I don't prefer Xfce because of its slow development.  I prefer Linux Lite and it happened to be using Xfce.  The people I've helped move to Linux via Linux Lite don't give a hoot, either.  They just want something that works, is fast, and looks good.  I think we need to trust the founder of Linux Lite on any changes keeping in step with the distro being friendly to the new Linux convert.  He's already stated in this thread that if KDE is used in the future, it will be part of an LTS (Long Term Support) build.  [/size]

[size=1em]I personally think Linux Lite has done a fantastic job with Xfce, and it looks great.  But it still looks closer to Windows XP or Windows 2000 than Windows 10.  And for some newbies, that's a step back.  To have a modern look, more functionality, and still be lighter weight than even Xfce...it would be foolish to ignore the possibilities, and that is what Jerry is investigating.[/size]

[size=1em]Take a chill pill and let him do his thing.[/size]

[Valtam]

Thanks torreydale, once again you've absolutely nailed my position here.

This is going to be a bloody tough decision here, one that deserves a wide, open and varied collection of opinions. Trust that whatever is decided upon in 2 years, it is purely for our target audience. In all facets of this topic, time is on our side.

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[m654321]

[size=1em]One of the reasons a lot of us prefer Xfce is because of it's "slow" development.  [/size]

[size=1em]I don't prefer Xfce because of it's slow development.  I prefer Linux Lite and it happened to be using Xfce.  The people I've helped move to Linux via Linux Lite don't give a hoot, either.  They just want something that works, is fast, and looks good ...
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[size=1em]

My thoughts entirely torreydale - very well done for articulating this so well [/size] 8)

[firenice03]

[size=1em]One of the reasons a lot of us prefer Xfce is because of it's "slow" development.  [/size]

[size=1em]I don't prefer Xfce because of its slow development.  I prefer Linux Lite and it happened to be using Xfce.  The people I've helped move to Linux via Linux Lite don't give a hoot, either.  They just want something that works, is fast, and looks good.  I think we need to trust the founder of Linux Lite on any changes keeping in step with the distro being friendly to the new Linux convert.  He's already stated in this thread that if KDE is used in the future, it will be part of an LTS (Long Term Support) build.  [/size]

[size=1em]I personally think Linux Lite has done a fantastic job with Xfce, and it looks great.  But it still looks closer to Windows XP or Windows 2000 than Windows 10.  And for some newbies, that's a step back.  To have a modern look, more functionality, and still be lighter weight than even Xfce...it would be foolish to ignore the possibilities, and that is what Jerry is investigating.[/size]

[size=1em]Take a chill pill and let him do his thing.[/size]

I would second this

[MS]

You know my opinion in this matter. You did not 'earn' Plasma, [member=2]Jerry[/member]. Infact, definitive majority of distros did not. That is why this entire situation is such a pitfall.

Yes, I do not give a hoot, but this is a double-edged sword.

[Artim]

I agree, for it's purpose, Jerry has done an awesome job and will continue to do so no matter which desktop LL uses.

I'm one of those (rare?) users who doesn't want a desktop that looks or behaves in any way like Windows.  I want mine as different from Windows as it can possibly get.

[MS]

I want mine as different from Windows as it can possibly get.

You have GNOME. By the way, watch out what you wish for. Windows is not stupid, infact, it is not stupid at all.

[member=2]Jerry[/member], I do not know you personally perhaps even at all, but it appears to me you have gone 'insane' over KDE and Plasma, literally overnight. It is a very disturbing observation. I would ask you to reevaluate your posts in this thread and compare them versus your common earlier demeanor on this forum. Sudden changes rarely lead up to serene ends.

I see how you have become slightly obsessed with modern KDE and it appears to me that embracing of KDE desktop environment by the Linux Lite, is inevitable, only a matter of time. I may not even be as much against the very KDE, but I may be against the 'madness' of how the ongoing change occurs. The sudden switch of KDE Plasma to an ultra-fast beyond-XFCE lightweight desktop environment, from the polar opposite point of spectrum it had inhabited literally a while ago, is unhealthy just by itself.

I do not think Linux Lite is going to be a 'spiritually' clear place for the time approaching, which is why I consider myself moving to something else, with more 'sane' background, if I may use the metaphor.