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Copying to a USB drive - no progress but file is there
#11
I don't think it's a PCManFM issue because copying the same file in the terminal exhibits peculiar behavior as well, as does copying in Double Commander. AFAIK, PCManFM, Thunar and also Double Commander are just frontends for regular system commands like you would use in the terminal. I just tried doing the same file transfer using two Thunar windows and got the same result; the file appears to have copied over successfully, but the progress bar in this case was stuck at about 90% and it took about two minutes to finally close.

Are there distros that do not exhibit this behavior? If I can't get this sorted out, I am seriously going to look at other distros, as I have this computer, a Windows PC, and two Macs here and I have to be able to move stuff between them easily. That would be a real pisser, as I really like Linux Lite in all other respects, at least so far. Or maybe this is just a Linux thing?

As an afterthought, I tried copying a folder of videos over; the folder had 13 files in it (each about 260 gigs, so roughly the same size as my first file already described) and a total size of 3.4 gigs. In this case, the progress bar moved, but the progress was jerky - it seemed to show the progress in steps. It also took 23 minutes to copy all the files. Interestingly, the Task Manager showed processor spikes (up to 100%), at first from Thunderbird, but when I closed Thunderbird then Firefox started doing it. I couldn't close Firefox because I was writing this post in it. :-) When the transfer finally finished the CPU use went down to about 10%, then down to about 3%, which is the normal idle value for this setup. It's interesting that according tot he Task Manager it was other programs that were spiking but I have a feeling that if I had closed Firefox then it would have simply moved to another process.

Then, out of curiosity, I copied the same files to the same flash drive from my Windows 7 PC using the USB 2.0 port; it took just over 10 minutes, with the speed given as @5.6-5.8 megs/sec pretty much the whole time.

In Windows, you can set the properties of a flash drive to allow write caching, which can speed up the transfer. On this computer, although I can do that with hard disks via Gnome Disk, that option is grayed out for mounted USB drives.
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#12
Do me a favor, create another user account and perform the same test. If this behavior is the same then there is something messed up as it should not do it on Thunar. It is possible an update did this as I am not having this issue on either 16.04 based or 18.04 based. The updates to the 16.04 base do not exhibit this problem using Thunar as I am using that for my computers.
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#13
(09-29-2018, 03:42 PM)supergamer link Wrote: Do me a favor, create another user account and perform the same test. If this behavior is the same then there is something messed up as it should not do it on Thunar. It is possible an update did this as I am not having this issue on either 16.04 based or 18.04 based. The updates to the 16.04 base do not exhibit this problem using Thunar as I am using that for my computers.

I'm new to Linux; I wouldn't know how to create another user and I don't even have to login on this machine since nobody but me ever uses it. If I create a new account is it easy to delete it later? I want to keep it as simple as possible. I did do some updating a few days ago, but I don't know what was installed.

I'm glad to hear that not all systems suffer from this annoying behavior, though.
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#14
I downloaded the live Peppermint 9 and ran it on this machine, then copied the first file I mentioned above from my hard drive to the same USB drive I have been using during all this. Exactly the same thing happened; that is, the progress bar picked a spot (in this case, 100%) and stayed there for the whole time it took to copy the 22g meg file - two minutes. Same speed as with Linux Lite, and although I was not running Firefox at the time, I did have the Task Manager running and it showed CPU usage going up to 100% in spikes. So it's obviously not a behavior that is specific to Linux Lite, but more likely Ubuntu. I will have to try something really different and see what happens then.

I tried it with Manjaro XFCE Live using Thunar with the same result. I guess it's a Linux thing. :-( While the Mac doesn't really have issues with drivers (they are very good at plug-and-play), Windows certainly does sometimes. Can you get different drivers for things like this with Linux?
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#15
Found this on the Ubuntu forums:

Found the fix all i did was unmount, remove drive, and run sudo modprobe ehci_hcd in the Terminal. Insert drive and agian sudo modprobe ehci_hcd when I put the drive in and wow 20/mbs thought i would share. Hope I dont have to do it every time... but it's not to hard...

[https://askubuntu.com/questions/122113/c...eally-slow]

Also, this thread has info in it which seems useful, but it's over my head: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions...et-500937/

And here's one from someone who claims to have solved the problem, but I can't understand the solution because I'm just too new at this:

The problem, as it turns out, was the sync option used to mount the filesystem, which appears to be performance-killer. Mounting it with flush option instead of sync solved the problem: sudo mount -o async,flush <device> <mountpoint>

I don't know how to turn those bracketed entries into stuff for my system.

There are lots of threads about this problem, I have found, but there is no consistent solution. Apparently a lot of people think this is a bug that was introduced way back in 2008 and hasn't been fixed, but I can't speak to that, only repeat what some guys said on the internet - how helpful that is, we all know.
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#16
That might work, but you need to read the whole article as it works in some cases and others it does not. Redhat shows it is hardware issue and you need another motherboard or disable the kernel driver by blacklisting but I am not to sure about that.
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