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Constant time adjustment [Still Happening] - ohjrson - 05-22-2014
So this has been my issue for quite some time. I have not really put it in here because I have been waiting for someone else to maybe have the same problem. Alas no one seems to have this issue. What is happening is that my time is losing time as the computer is on. in one week it will be off by an hour and I have to reboot. Problem is that when I do this it does not always reboot, and I have to do some other things to get it to boot up into ubuntu 12.04 then it goes ahead and finishes its boot up. Aside from that when it does boot up the time is reset. Yes I know that I can do this through the terminal and I have been doing that of late, but it is getting annoying that I constantly have to manually update and reset the time.
My specs are as follows:
-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1802MB (893MB used)
Operating System : Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
User Name : (omitted)
Date/Time : Wed 21 May 2014 08:59:47 PM EDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 Pro] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
-Input Devices-
Power Button
Power Button
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Logitech Trackball
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
spca561
-Printers (CUPS)-
Photosmart_C6300
-SCSI Disks-
ATA ST3160827AS
ST350063 0AS
What is the resolution to this problem? I also can't seem to do anything with the programs I downloaded for the ATI video cards, unsure what or why that does not work.
Any help with this will be great!...
Thanks
Ohjrson
Re: Constant time adjustment - Valtam - 05-22-2014
Time - have you read the 'Setting the Time and Date' section in the Help Manual under Network? As for the ATI issue, please post in the Video Card section of the Forums. Thank you.
Re: Constant time adjustment - ohjrson - 05-22-2014
Sorry Valtam I may not have made myself clear when I said: Yes I know that I can do this through the terminal and I have been doing that of late, but it is getting annoying that I constantly have to manually update and reset the time. I should have said that, Yes I have looked in the help menu for the networking and the time and date information. This is what I am doing.
sudo hwclock --hctosys
After I enter my password it does what it does and resets the time, then I enter this:
sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com where it does its thing getting the information etc... and all is good. The thing is I am doing this about every day or two. The time on my computer gets off by 30 minutes to an hour at times. I am trying to find out why.
BTW just dl Linux Lite 2.0 Beta and I am loving it!!!!! Downloaded it in I think 10 minutes then put it right into a 2g usb and popped it in my Acer 3000 laptop and is running beautifully from the Live USB. (so I am really excited about installing it very soon) I will have some suggestions though...I have had them for a while just have not had time to submit them. But I love LL2.0 !!! Great Job...
Re: Constant time adjustment - Valtam - 05-22-2014
Is this on a laptop or desktop? It's possible that if this is an old machine, the cmos battery may need replacing.
Re: Constant time adjustment - ohjrson - 05-22-2014
Desktop, and I have thought of that. But I remember that I saw in my bios one day that the time there was incorrect... so I corrected it.
Just re-read everything and I see what you mean. Sorry about that. I have several computers, the one I am on now is a desktop. The one I put LL2.0 on is an Acer Aspire 3000 Laptop.
However getting back to the battery, (IMHO) I think that it would not be related to the battery as the machine is left on and the time slips away (into the future...lol) slowly.
Les
Re: Constant time adjustment - N4RPS - 05-22-2014
Hello!
If I were you, I'd still pop a fresh CR2032 into that pup and see if that changes things. A bad battery can still cause time issues, even if the PC is left on.
After that, I'd check your power supply voltages. That would explain why you're running slow, even when it's on, as they usually run FAST...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Re: Constant time adjustment - ohjrson - 06-12-2014
Yeah did the fresh battery thing and tested the old one (battery) it still had 2.5 volts in it so not sure that did anything.
Power supply is working fine. I did set the time to the correct time in the bios, so not sure if that will make a difference.
What else could it be?
Re: Constant time adjustment - N4RPS - 06-12-2014
Hello!
The CR2032 CMOS battery voltage is SUPPOSED to be 3.2 V. I'd change it. It could be producing a fairly decent voltage and, at the same time, not provide adequate current to properly run the oscillator.
After that, keep a watch on the system time in the BIOS, as well as in the OS. If it continues to change, and you're CERTAIN that your power supply's good (I'd change THAT, also, if you have a known good spare), then you most likely have a weak component in the oscillator portion of the real-time clock - most likely, a capacitor.
Some computers display the power supply voltages in the BIOS, but I use a special tester that cost me around $30, just to check power supplies. It gives me a digital display of both voltage and amperage for ALL the outputs.
Look at the electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard (they look like little cans). If the tops of ANY of them are bulging or have ruptured, then the motherboard is pretty much history. You could 'recap' it, but at that point, it'd be cheaper to buy (or scrounge) another old machine instead...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Re: Constant time adjustment - ohjrson - 06-15-2014
Thanks N4RPS for the information.
AS it happens I have a little bit of electronics knowledge but not a lot. I knew that those little cans were capacitors but I did not know their full name, or that they are electrolytic. It just so happens I have a DVD recorder that won't power on at all now and when I took off the cover I saw that one of them had indeed blown. Odd thing is that it was on before and just would not come on again once I shut it off. The power board is separate from the rest of the system and is connected by ribbons and such to the other components. How difficult is it to replace those and would it be worth actually trying to or better/less expensive to try and order a replacement power board from the manufacturer.
As for the issue with the time slowly slipping away. it seems I am still having the issue, even aftger replacing the battery for the cmos. I am going to have to look into the power supply more closely to see if something similar has happened. But so I am clear you are saying that if those (capacitors) have any sign of bulging or blown then the mother board is no good and I should just get another one?
Let me know.
Thanks again.
Re: Constant time adjustment - N4RPS - 06-15-2014
Hello!
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Even though the capacitors are, in quantity, a few cents each, by the time you buy the many (and many different values of) electrolytic capacitors, and expend the effort to change them all, you approach the cost of a new motherboard.
Additionally, you don't know if it'll even work again after you've done all that, as changing certain components out affects others in ways you just can't predict...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob