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Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - minesheep - 09-01-2019
Method 1: when booting from live usb/dvd hit tab key and type " waitusb" without quotes but with space and then hit enter. After booted up remove your usb/dvd and keep it in safe place. (requires 2GB of ram but 4GB recommended)
Method 2: Break your network in any way to not be able to visit any malicious websites. And oops! it's no longer freezing.(not able to visit any websites)
Method 3: make your LL partition smaller and keep simple backups from it with dd, but be very careful to not lose any data.(a lot of work)
Method 4: fix it every day (even more work)
Method 5:hide your computer (why not)
Method 6: mix other methods (why not)
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - MS - 09-02-2019
(09-01-2019, 07:22 PM)kissbaby3 link Wrote: [quote author=Oobuntus link=topic=6681.msg48557#msg48557 date=1567308149]
[member=7250]kissbaby3[/member]
Here's a suggestion:
1. Create a small virtual machine and install the same Linux Lite in it with an anonymous username like John Doe.
2. Set up the VM to auto-login.
3. Add a startup launcher on the VM to auto-run Firefox (optional).
4. Create a snapshot of the VM.
5. On the host, create a launcher with an appropriate name and the command: VBoxManage startvm name-of-the-vm
6. Acquaint him with how to close the VM when he's through with it.
7. If or when he ever renders it frozen, restore the snapshot.
No one should visit such sites from a computer or smartphone that knows your name and email address. You will very likely become the recipient of a ton of spam if you do. It's better to do research of this sort from an anonymous virtual machine.
this is a lot , i will have to learn the whole VM thing on the pc upstairs first, i seen the VM thing dove in tutorials on youtube , so i will find some videos on youtube to see how this is done on a Linux machine(PC)
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No need to. If you are using GNU/Linux system, you will unlikely ever be asked to connect your e-mail account or any personal on-line databank with your user profile on the local operating system, such as with Google or Microsoft systems, where you are persuaded or even required to do that. Unless I do not know. Even in the virtual machine, you can still be exposed, if you let yourself be identified through the online services.
Likewise, as already said, be wary of the same thing when using web browsers, since from what I know, definitive majority of popular web browsers - including Firefox - do include login options, not to forget our very favourite Chromium simply being a Google insert. That is why I recommend using a separate, unrelated web browser - or incognito mode, theoretically - when simply wanting to be sure.
Very valid recommendation by [member=5916]trinidad[/member], to configure your web browser in a way as to either never record any history or clear the history bank right after closing the web browser. Some popular browsers are sort of an issue with this, since they lack this option or have this option not enough transparent.
For the personal story, back in the day when I used to visit porn sites, they would oftentimes install malware on the system - early Windows versions - which was particularly hard to remove. Initially, I would have to restart the PC and delete a manually located malware file before it got initiated by the system, later on I learned how to kill running processes via program manager, then delete the file. Anyway, missing out on this one would cause a huge "porn news" pop-up on the main desktop right after reboot and I was not the only person using the PC. I never got caught on that, though. What stroke me dead was one day this tech guy to come do the maintenance, fix the - how confusing - slowed down web browser and it turned out I have never cleared the history. That was a big one. Big privacy lesson. Learned it.
But eventually, having had been a Windows user for a long time, I concluded that if someone has nothing particular to hide, which would primarily mean doing some illegal stuff, why all the privacy fuss? In the end, all these tracking services are supposed to make the Internet environment more personalized for the user. Nonetheless, everyone is free to make a choice, pick up the most suitable way and style.
EDIT:
I remember some malware was tricky enough as to redownload the main application - in case it got erased - with a separate downloader function, making the thing more complicated to deal with.
PS.
Thinking about it, I could have also tried to solve the issue in emergency mode, but never really learned that.
Last method, never tried it back then - as it was beyond my comprehension - but certainly would be useful, is to deselect the application for autostart in the msconfig panel, then delete after a reboot.
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - m654321 - 09-02-2019
[member=7250]kissbaby3[/member]
I think TMG1961's advice is definitely the best, i.e. buy him his own laptop!
Simple. That way your computer doesn't get messed up.
Get him a cheap 2nd-hand laptop & install LL on it ...
(09-02-2019, 05:41 AM)MS link Wrote: But eventually, having had been a Windows user for a long time, I concluded that if someone has nothing particular to hide, which would primarily mean doing some illegal stuff, why all the privacy fuss? In the end, all these tracking services are supposed to make the Internet environment more personalized for the user.
Privacy fuss?
Surely, privacy issues are important. Isn't it about more than whether you're doing illegal stuff or not & not wanting to get caught? Isn't it about global organisations like Google, Facebook, etc.., profiling you from the data they harvest about you? Don't you find that creepy? It's like being stalked, but in the digital world? Isn't it more about their commercial gain, e.g. targeted advertising, than improving the internet environment for the user. Thankfully things have changed, at least in the right direction, since the Cambridge Analytica / Facebook scandal.
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - MS - 09-02-2019
[member=458]m654321[/member], quite true, they do it for profit, otherwise, why would they even bother, particularly to unfold so much as to become a synonym for online activity of the time, for example, google it, right?
I think that unless you do something really creepy, you are perfectly fine even going monitored, while it is quite silly to believe anyone would actually give a damn about monitoring anyone in particular, save maybe for targeting people who have gone famous for what they do or some enterprise, but it is a different story. If the system bothers you with the feedback, disable the personalized feedback or minimize the amount of data being stored about you, by going incognito mode, clearing up the historybanks and so on. It is even good to do once in a while, just for the hygiene. But said, what majority of people obsessed with privacy are doing, is that they create a statistical coverup for those really needing it, lest get caught. Like, if there were just a few people rioting in an otherwise peaceful public manifest, these few would get recognized and picked out very easily, but since there is an entire crowd rioting to a certain degree, it is harder to spot out those trespassing the border between manifesting and simply acting criminal. Mind that criminals very rarely are being idealistic. They share the mindset with the corporate world, which is, they are for profit or personal reward of a kind. Anyway, do you really believe anything is foolproof secure? You want to be secure over the Internet, plug out the Internet in your machine. I do understand some people are being strong privacy idealists for the sake of ideal, but what I think is that there is no sudden switch between quantity and quality of information, which means, even if some databank has gathered a lot of information about you, it changes nothing in the fact there is very little sensible use to that or such this much information has any more meaning than just a little information, when put to good use.
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - kissbaby3 - 09-02-2019
well its labor day, but off to work i go , i want to say thank you for all this advice, we talked and no more porn site or porn anything sites or what ever on the internet , once i told him all the things that could happen including identity theft and so on, he no longer will search for that sort of thing......but hopefully my post can help others learn from anthers lesson learned, hugs and love to every one who replied and the help given.
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - kissbaby3 - 09-02-2019
(09-02-2019, 06:31 PM)kissbaby3 link Wrote: well its labor day, but off to work i go , i want to say thank you for all this advice, we talked and no more porn site or porn anything sites or what ever on the internet , once i told him all the things that could happen including identity theft and so on, he no longer will search for that sort of thing......but hopefully my post can help others learn from anthers lesson learned, hugs and love to every one who replied and the help given.
plus i will probably leave this post open for alittle longer, it does give others some things to think about, also , just so you all know, i used quite abit of the advice given, made my pc down stairs faster actually, this really helped alot. again thank you , hugs and loves , and happy labor day ,
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - firenice03 - 09-02-2019
Having a back up too...
Time Shift/System Back..
Would at least get you back to a state prior and undo any bade code....
I like to run updates and make a backup.. Hang on to a few (if you update monthly keep 3 or 4).... Depending on space..
Update when prior to making sys changes too...
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - torreydale - 09-04-2019
[member=7250]kissbaby3[/member] ,
Consider using OpenDNS server IP addresses at your router for the whole house, or at the computer for that one host. The IPs are 208.67.222.123 and 208.67.220.123.
https://support.opendns.com/hc/en-us/articles/228007127-FamilyShield-Computer-Configuration-Instructions
Re: i need alittle advice, he froze my linux doing something stupid , need help, - firenice03 - 09-04-2019
(09-04-2019, 01:25 PM)torreydale link Wrote: [member=7250]kissbaby3[/member] ,
Consider using OpenDNS server IP addresses at your router for the whole house, or at the computer for that one host. The IPs are 208.67.222.123 and 208.67.220.123.
https://support.opendns.com/hc/en-us/articles/228007127-FamilyShield-Computer-Configuration-Instructions
I can ditto [member=5239]torreydale[/member] .. I use same setup for kiddies... Also if you use a chrome/google account, in the settings "Search Settings" lower right corner on google - Search Settings you can enable Safe Search.. Firefox may have something similar...